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poff34
(The Next Level!)
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 Posted - 04/22/2009 : 8:19:40 PM
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04/22/2009 Ian McKenzie (RW) Milwaukee DEL Reassigned by Nashville (NHL) to Cincinnati (ECHL
this from the AHL website. |
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mheck13
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 04/22/2009 : 8:40:17 PM
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| If Montreal loses tonight, would Hamilton have to send some of our crew back? |
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XcloneiacX
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
869 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2009 : 9:12:26 PM
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I don't think anyone from Hamilton was on our roster for the PO's.
We just need Rank back and that's the last eligible player that we can get. |
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tjpavlik
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USA
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Posted - 04/22/2009 : 9:34:07 PM
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The addition of Ian McKenzie brings up some interesting questions. Firstly assuming he's going right into the lineup who is going to sit? Petit is the low man in seniority but has contributed offensively when we really needed it. Both Mark Van Guilder and Jimmy Kilpatrick are struggling offensively but have a positive presence on the special teams and defensively. Jake Dietrich is a force as a defensive forward; not so much offensively.
Secondly what role will he play? He takes up a ton of space in front of the goal (he was teamed with Syroczynski a few times, try moving both of 'em) on the PP however he's not really an offensive forward. Maybe a Santorelli-Kilpatrick-McKenzie line as a combination line....
Lastly will he play the physical game we are playing in this years' playoffs? We all know what kind of game Elmira plays and we seem to be giving up a slight advantage in team size. More to the point is he (and the team as the whole) willing to forecheck and beat Elmira in their own end?
My predictions from previous posts weren't worth anything so I'm just hoping for a positive influence. (And Cyclones in 4 !) |
Edited by - tjpavlik on 04/22/2009 9:35:57 PM |
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XcloneiacX
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 04/22/2009 : 9:49:10 PM
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| I say Clones in 5 and McKenzie is going to be a big breath of fresh air because if you think about his contributions all year, he has done a lot. I don't know exactly who he'd be best with as far as his line goes, but he will be a good force to have on offense. Especially on the PP like you said. |
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
USA
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Posted - 04/22/2009 : 10:47:36 PM
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I know everyone is thinking of the "fighting" Elmira team,but what about
Ian for JJ ? What I saw Monday from JJ was 30 seconds of skating,them off
to the bench. We still have plenty of muscle in the lineup and maybe the refs
would give us some breaks on penalties if he is not out there. I would at least
like to see one game with out him to see what happens. |
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hrc666
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Posted - 04/23/2009 : 12:49:29 AM
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Dear Coach Weber,
Could you please put Mr. MacKenzie on the same line as Mr. Sproat and Mr. Kilpatrick.
Or if that is not acceptable could you please put Mr. Petit on that line and place Mr. Dietrich on the 3rd line.
Thank you for your consideration.
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elvis77
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Posted - 04/23/2009 : 12:50:24 AM
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it does bring up an interesting topic. it's hard to say who you sit. production wise the money is on JJ, but do you really want to take JJ out of the line-up against a team known for gooning it up. as tjpavlik mentioned, felix is the low man seniority wise, but with the forechecking and scoring chances that where created on monday night i don't think there is anyway you can break up the petit-faulkner-santorelli line.
i'm thinking of who chuck has used in PK and PP situations and we really don't have anyone that's just a 5 on 5 player, even JJ gets some PP time. i would say JJ would make the most sense, especially with woll, salekin, and macdonald, not to mention chico as of late, more than capable of throwing their bodies around and playing the potential roll of enforcer.....
regardless of who chuck decides to sit this is a good problem to have. one of the things that made last years team so good was the competition between players; if a guy isn't performing there is another guy hungry to take his place. i guess come friday we'll know for sure.....just think how tricky things get when rank gets back...... |
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XcloneiacX
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 04/23/2009 : 02:13:32 AM
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I saw keep JJ and Salekin in(or Tj even) in the lineup as a counter to Elmira's attempts to start something. I say maybe if anything just switch off Ian with Felix and Jake, maybe give a guy a night off and play the hot hand or give a guy off because he's just exhausted.
Just my 2 cents. |
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hrc666
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Posted - 04/23/2009 : 03:40:27 AM
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Johnson is a must have in the lineup vs. Elmira. While Salekin, Syro and Woll offer protection, Johnson is our premier anti-intimidation force.
The possible healthy scratch would be from the list of:
1) Santorelli
2) Deitrich
3) Faulkner
4) Petit
I'd list Faulkner as an improbable scratch because he offers more experience than the others. The Cyclones are woefully short on that, so I think this weighs heavily on his behalf. Faulkner has plenty of grit and determination, but his finesse skills are modest at best.
Petit has the most offensive potential of this group. He still hasn't made an adequate adjustment from junior hockey to the pros, but he's only played about 10 games. He consistently takes too long to pass/shoot and feathers some painfully soft passes which tend to get picked off. If he can make this adustment (quickly!), then he adds some firepower to an offense which was anemic in Round 1. A team which scored 1.6 goals per game (excluding the 7 in game 3) needs all the scoring it can get.
Deitrich is plum awful offensively. Why Weber continues to saddle Kilpatrick and Sproat with him on their line is beyond my tiny mind's comprehensive abilities. However, Deitrich is a pretty good skater, backchecks with abandon and is useful on the PK.
Santorelli seems like a passionless robot to me. He has some positive qualties. His AHL seasoning has taught him to pass and shoot the puck quickly. He forechecks pretty well. He only had 3 assists in round 1 and I don't forsee him being much of a scoring or physical factor vs. Elmira. He is my leading candidate to be charting faceoff results on Friday.
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spitfirehcky
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 04/23/2009 : 07:35:59 AM
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| I wonder why McKenzie was assigned to Cincinnati when Milwaukee made it to the 2nd round? |
2008 Kelly Cup Champions - CINCINNATI CYCLONES!! Lets Repeat til we get beat! |
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cove291
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 04/23/2009 : 07:47:02 AM
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| Is it really a help getting him back....I'm saying this because it seems like every time we get someone new or returns to the lineup, it screws up the chemistry the team has and we end up losing games. I'm sure they will play him so I pray he wasn't gone too long too screw do that to the team we have now. |
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cloneinator
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Posted - 04/23/2009 : 08:31:51 AM
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I would NEVER have said this 4 months ago, but I don't see how you can sit JJ when playing The Goon Squad. I reckon this is a good problem to have though.
I'm sure Chuck will evaluate everyone in practice and then make a decision. He sure has shown he knows what he's doing to this point. |
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Puckhead60
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Posted - 04/23/2009 : 08:37:32 AM
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Faulkner is just as terrible overall on offense as Deitrich is, and he's useless in our own zone. We've got the experience box checked with some of the other guys that we have. He'd get my vote.
I don't think that scratching Petit is a good idea at all. This team clearly needs any offense that it can find, and he seems to do a lot of things right when he's out there and helps to create plays. You nailed Deitrich perfectly, and I agree, he's far too valuable on the PK and in the backcheck to sit. |
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elvis77
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Posted - 04/23/2009 : 09:48:53 AM
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i'm not saying this has kept me up at night, but i have given it some thought.....
the petit/faulkner/santorelli is a monster in my book, and the only way you break it up is if mckenzie has good chemistry with santorelli, in which case you out them with sproat and put killer with petit and faulkner. that makes either JJ or dietrich odd man out. while i think from a pure hockey stand point sitting JJ makes sense, i agree that against a team like elmira, who is going to play chippy and try to take some liberties against our skilled guys, having JJ on the bench is irreplaceable. when i draw up lines, regardless of how i do it, it seems like dietrich or JJ are always the guys left over. it's a tough call because both jake and JJ have key roles that ian doesn't fit as well, if at all.
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XcloneiacX
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 04/23/2009 : 11:46:14 AM
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I think Faulkner has done great in the offensive zone. He fights for the puck and finishes his checks hard. He has a lot of good qualities he just hasn't been able to put a lot of opportunities in the back of the net. I will say he has tons of them though which means he is an offensive machine and he really starts some drives on his line.
I said Dietrich personally. The kid has heart but for me there is just something missing there, not sure what it is but I feel as if he just isn't there all the way. |
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