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jevers
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USA
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Posted - 12/18/2010 :  11:16:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit jevers's Homepage
CINCINNATI, Ohio - The Wheeling Nailers (15-11-0-0) exploded for a five-goal third period en route to a 7-2 victory over the Cincinnati Cyclones (11-10-5-2) in front of 2,949 at U.S. Bank Arena on Saturday night. With the victory, the Nailers vault Cincinnati into first place of the North Division standings.

The Cyclones jumped out front 1-0 on a tap in goal by Barret Ehgoetz, who was camped out on the doorstep and slid one past Nailers goalie Patrick Killeen (W, 18 saves, 12-5-0-0) at 3:10 of the first period. As the goal light came on, the 2,949 in attendance began throwing their teddy bears onto the ice, which will all be donated to Lighthouse Youth Services this holiday season. Wheeling bounced right back, though, with a goal of their own at 4:21 when Ben Street fed Nick Petersen who slammed home his ninth of the season to knot things at one. Luckily the Cyclones were able to regain the lead during a Wheeling power play, as Kevin Roeder intercepted a pass at center ice and broke in all alone for his second goal of the year making it 2-1 through 20 minutes.

The Nailers found the equalizer at the 14:44 mark of period two when Danny Masse pounced on a loose puck and lifted it over Cyclones netminder Marc Cheverie (L, 22 saves, 10-6-5-2) to even the score once again. Unfortunately in the third period, Wheeling exploded for five goals by five different players; Casey Pierro-Zabotel, Ben Street, Joey Haddad, Jason DeSantis, and Kyle Bushee all found the net for the Nailers in the final frame, leading them to a 7-2 victory.

The Cyclones Radio Network Three Stars of the Game are as follows:
1. Nick Petersen (1 goal, 1 assist for Wheeling)
2. Andrew Orpik (2 assists for Wheeling)
3. Kyle Bushee (1 goal, 2 assists for Wheeling)

With the weekend series against Wheeling behind them, the Cyclones will enjoy a week off for Christmas before getting back to action on Sunday, December 26 when they'll meet the Nailers at WesBanco Arena at 5:05pm.

The defending Kelly Cup Champions will return to U.S. Bank Arena on Tuesday, December 28 for a reunion with the Toledo Walleye. It will be another Big Beer Tuesday, with $2 24-ounce Molson and Labatt Blue flowing all night long. Discounted ticket packages and single game tickets for the 2010-2011 season are available now. For more information, call 513.421.PUCK (7825) or visit CyclonesHockey.com.


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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)

USA
2224 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2010 :  06:04:17 AM  Show Profile
UGLY
This season looks like the promotions better be good because
the hockey is not going to be. This team at best looks like
#6 playoff slot and out in 5 for first round. Cheverie looks
like toast since the Reading shoot-out. Street should have been
in Wednesday night to see if he is legit and now Cheverie might
be overworked. We didn't win Friday as much as Wheeling didn't
win it. Maybe it's time to scout the bushes (like the CHL) for
someone with a shot on goal and maybe a veteran goalie (where
are you Cody !).
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Donnie Hockey
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USA
1514 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2010 :  09:32:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit Donnie Hockey's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by bags

UGLY
This season looks like the promotions better be good because
the hockey is not going to be. This team at best looks like
#6 playoff slot and out in 5 for first round. Cheverie looks
like toast since the Reading shoot-out. Street should have been
in Wednesday night to see if he is legit and now Cheverie might
be overworked. We didn't win Friday as much as Wheeling didn't
win it. Maybe it's time to scout the bushes (like the CHL) for
someone with a shot on goal and maybe a veteran goalie (where
are you Cody !).



It wasn't that long ago that you would have been very happy just to have a hockey team at USBA.

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bhf303
(The Next Level!)

198 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2010 :  12:28:49 PM  Show Profile
Maybe they should change the team name to Bloominton Prarie Thunder. This is about as good as they done under Skalde and Fankhouser.

Somersaults, thats how I roll!
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bhf303
(The Next Level!)

198 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2010 :  12:41:03 PM  Show Profile
Maybe they should change the team name to Bloominton Prarie Thunder. This is about as good as they done under Skalde and Fankhouser.

Somersaults, thats how I roll!
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AwesomeSauce
(The Next Level!)

159 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2010 :  1:32:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit AwesomeSauce's Homepage
They are 1 point out of first in the division! Saturdays game was bad,this team is definitely not lighting it up right now but you arent going to get the 07-08 team every year. Why all the doom and gloom? Go Cyclones!
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)

USA
2224 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2010 :  4:04:34 PM  Show Profile
The doom and gloom is real simple-with Weber the bad was followed by
changes. The only changes I've seen is what little talent we have is
constantly being recalled and under-performers left behind. Cheverie is
a true rookie-treat him like that. We need a veteran both to help him and
take the grind off his back. I will be there and a slim season might be
ahead but at least go down fighting. This is starting to look like the
last season before shut down when we were playing out the season with
what we had.
By the way, I love to eat crow so I dare them to serve it to me. This
current team won't be serving it.
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)

USA
676 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2010 :  9:08:06 PM  Show Profile
Thats funny.

Even after the win Friday my wife and I both agreed that we are looking at a 6 to 8th playoff seed AT BEST and out in the first round.
I truly hope I'm totally wrong.

I feel spoiled for sure, but it is frustrating to watch most of a cup team not manage to get results. Either they completely overachieved on a biblical scale last year or this team is a mother of an underachiever.

I'm just not finding this brand of hockey fun to watch on most nights. Mostly its just frustrating.
I haven't been this frustrated as a hockey fan since my days of watching an offensively loaded Thrashers team consistently not make the playoffs every year.
We eventally just quit going. Too damned expensive to lose on giving up cheap goals every game.

Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama.
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bhf303
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198 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2010 :  5:16:11 PM  Show Profile
I hate being doom and gloom! I hate it! But, the fact is, the Clones are an average team AT BEST. I know they cant win them all, and I dont expect that. I love that damn team, and I hate seeing them play the way they are. I place the blame on the coaches. The system is not working for the current personnel. Something has to change, and there is so sign that it will. And yes, as a multi seat season ticket holder, I feel that I, along with every other fan that spends money there, has a right to be concerned, or even upset. It doesnt mean we dont care, we just hate seeing this performance.

Somersaults, thats how I roll!
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)

USA
2224 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2010 :  5:29:47 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by bhf303

I hate being doom and gloom! I hate it! But, the fact is, the Clones are an average team AT BEST. I know they cant win them all, and I dont expect that. I love that damn team, and I hate seeing them play the way they are. I place the blame on the coaches. The system is not working for the current personnel. Something has to change, and there is so sign that it will. And yes, as a multi seat season ticket holder, I feel that I, along with every other fan that spends money there, has a right to be concerned, or even upset. It doesnt mean we dont care, we just hate seeing this performance.


Very well put. We are behind the team but we also must speak up if the team's
effort seems less than their best. A few times last year we had games when less
than 100% was given and we spoke out. If Cheverie was Mayer or Smith from last year,
an "EBUG" could serve as a backup. He needs a real second goalie to keep from burnout.
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Randy
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USA
432 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2010 :  5:36:47 PM  Show Profile
It was one game people. I could see if both Friday and Saturday they got wiped out... but fans need to chill. The coaching staff isn't stupid and did things the way they did for a reason. Team is still second in the division and is not in the bottom of the worse teams of the league now. Be grateful and don't take things so seriously. This isn't the Bengals.

Cyclones Fan, Win or Lose
Bengals Fan - Never!
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elvis77
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Posted - 12/20/2010 :  5:44:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit elvis77's Homepage  Send elvis77 an AOL message
Before you say "If Cheverie was Mayer or Smith from last year..." let me remind you of how inconsistent both of them were in the 1st part of the season. They both had great runs down the stretch and deserve the playoff co-mvp, but early on is a hot mess.




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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)

USA
2224 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2010 :  6:32:39 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by elvis77

Before you say "If Cheverie was Mayer or Smith from last year..." let me remind you of how inconsistent both of them were in the 1st part of the season. They both had great runs down the stretch and deserve the playoff co-mvp, but early on is a hot mess.


Sorry, what I meant was if we had Mayer or Smith back this year instead of
Cheverie, we could handle a rookie like Street as the backup. This would
now be their second year and could almost be considered veterans. However
Cheverie is just like they were early last year with no one to turn to.
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)

USA
676 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2010 :  10:46:27 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Randy

It was one game people. I could see if both Friday and Saturday they got wiped out... but fans need to chill. The coaching staff isn't stupid and did things the way they did for a reason. Team is still second in the division and is not in the bottom of the worse teams of the league now. Be grateful and don't take things so seriously. This isn't the Bengals.



It's not one game. I've only seen 3 wins this season (and it's hard to even count Bakersfield as they were terrible) as opposed to a whole bunch of cheap goals against and poor play in general in multiple loses.

As noted above, if you remove the occassional flashes of success you end up with consistent mediocrity, and nothing is changing. They are still trying (for the most part) the same stuff as the home opener and it still isn't working very well.

Last weekend we had 6 of 10 forwards and 3 of 6 defensemen from last years cup team on the ice. That's some pretty serious (and rare) consistency at this level. The results need to be better than the middle of a mediocre division.
If we were in the southeast we'd be getting murdered.

Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama.
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cloneinator
(Been Here Awhile)

USA
597 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2010 :  06:48:50 AM  Show Profile  Visit cloneinator's Homepage
Well, it is what it is, and I would have to guess that this far into the season there is no white horse on the horizon that will propel this team from mediocrity to elite.

We are battling for first place in a poor division. Losing Weber and replacing him as late as it was kind of doomed this team before the starting gate opened. No one will win the cup every year, and every team will have off years. I think we just have to accept that this is an off year.

No one is under more pressure to produce a winner than the owners and coaches. Face it...its minor league hockey, here today, gone tomorrow. Produce and people will come. Don't produce, and the Cyclones will eventually slip into the abyss that has happened to the Ducks, the Cyclones of old, Stingers, etc.

I am very confident there will be changes made at the end of the season to get this team back on track, whatever it takes. The Cyclones can survive a year like this, but two could spell the end.

...And on the eighth day, GOD created the Cyclones!
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)

865 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2010 :  08:40:47 AM  Show Profile
Some great points by many. Only addition I would add is , again , the PK and PP. If you look at even strength goals given up, we are tied with Reading for the second lowest in the conference at 52 only behind Greenville's 45. We have given up 36 PK goals which is 8 more than the next highest total which is K-Zoo at 28. The PK is a system dictated by the coach and this system does not work. In an average PK we might clear the puck twice while when we are on the PP --another system dictated by the coach--we cant keep the puck in the zone for 20 seconds. We have the lowest PP total in the conference at 15!!!. There are three teams who have given up more PK goals than they have scored PP goals. REading is minus 8, Toledo is minus 10 and we are minus 21 !!!!!!. This is 3/4 of a goal negative difference per game. You cant win by starting off the game this way. Last year we had the best differential.

Another way of looking at it is there are only four teams in the conference who have scored more even strength goals than they have given up. Reading is plus 19, Greenville is plus 25, Wheeling is plus 13, and we are plus 12. Top four in even strength differential and worst at PK/PP differential.

As we are 40% into the season and talking about poor PK and PP results since the first week, the idea that the coaches will adjust their systems doesn't seem realistic.



Edited by - dbc on 12/21/2010 08:44:03 AM
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