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Ih8thecyclones
(The Next Level!)
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 Posted - 12/30/2008 : 7:18:44 PM
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I have been reading many posts in different areas about him lets pile all of it in here.
I would say this guy needs to be cut and Cincy find a more discipline enforcer.
I was at the games when JJ killed the power play for Cincy by him taking dumb penalities. These were at times when Cincy needed to score.
And you have to admit the game where we won in a shootout in Cincy, I saw it on B2 but JJ was diffently pulling a Avery in overtime. Granted they didn't call it but once again there he could have taken a bad penality.
I am sure he is a good guy and all he just needs to have some self control.
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Edited by - Ih8thecyclones on 12/30/2008 7:20:06 PM |
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poff34
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 12/30/2008 : 7:38:56 PM
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| I totally agree with you!!!! The game in the shootout he should have been kicked out of the game for goalie interference |
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SonOFaChuck
(Rookie)
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Posted - 12/30/2008 : 7:50:57 PM
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| real constructive... hockey knowledge is very short on this message board |
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poff34
(The Next Level!)
USA
250 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 8:02:44 PM
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| how do you not see that he is an idiot and takes really stupid penalties |
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Cyclonesdiehard
(Been Here Awhile)
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poff34
(The Next Level!)
USA
250 Posts |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 8:21:00 PM
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| why dont we just cut him he is not worth ANYTHING on this team. he just keeps the penalty box seat warm! |
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cyclonehole
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 12/30/2008 : 8:35:45 PM
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| I am a supporter of Johnson. Yes he has taken a couple of bad penalties at costly times, that doesn't mind it's time to "cut him". JJ adds a much-needed physical presence to this team. For the record I am not one who thinks it is necessary for a team to need an enforcer, which is more of a fact than an opinion, look at our Kelly Cup team last year or see how many fights the Stanley Cup champions won last year for that matter. I do however find it refreshing to have a guy who can fight and who does stick up for his teammates (Avery Wilson was a punching bag, Bonneau was in the penalty box for most of his limited ice time). I was critical of Johnson at first, but I was at the game in Wheeling Saturday night and I think anyone else who was there or who was watching on B2 will agree that he was hustling like I haven't seen anyone on this team do all year, diving to clear the puck out of the zone after a turnover, not to mention he set up the first goal quite nicely (his line with Kilpatrick also scored the first goal in Sunday's game against Trenton, JJ getting assists on both). No costly penalties were taken in either of those games. |
Edited by - cyclonehole on 12/30/2008 8:38:25 PM |
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elvis77
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Posted - 12/30/2008 : 8:49:13 PM
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coach is committed to giving him a regular shift. killer and van have played great but with the addition of JJ to their line they have become explosive because of the space he creates. that line was responsible for every goal on sunday. he's going to get called for somethings that other guys get away with simply because of his reputation so he is going to need to watch that. coach wants him here and the guys in the locker room like him...he's not going anywhere.
don't get me wrong, i'm not saying the guy is a saint but for 2 years i've listened to people cry about needing a tough guy, well now we've got one and people are still crying. JJ can play...he's strong on the puck and has a heavy shot. his hands need some work and needs to play smarter when it comes to the penalties but he can play. he's been here for 7 games. that's a very small sample size. don't judge a guy on that short basis. late last season chad starling to a lot of stupid penalties late in games that cost us wins in regulation and but at the end of the day are we going to take his name off the cup because of it? just about every player on this team has taken a penalty that has effected the momentum or outcome of the game. jimmy bonneau was the king of stupid penalties last season and everytime he was a scratch people would bitch that he wasn't in the line up. the next game he'd be in the line, get called for charging, boarding, cross checking or stupidity in general and the same people would bitch about how stupid it was for him take them....you can't have it both ways. chuck may limit a guys ice time but he's not going to bring a guy in here that he feels can't play just because he can fight. JJ took a couple of bad penalties in his first few games and people want his head, but when mitch "minor penalty" woods decides to quits everyone cries....it makes no sense...give the guy a chance..i think he's just what this team needs...only time will tell |
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Randy
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 12/30/2008 : 9:06:26 PM
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I really wish he'd at least change his number back.
I can't stand anything related to the Bengals and his number represents something from the Bengals on our team. |
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XcloneiacX
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 12/30/2008 : 10:28:31 PM
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I'm going to make my post short and sweet.
The Cyclones get beat in some games simply because they aren't physical, Johnson is a godsend to me and I am happy that he is on the team. Sorry if you don't agree but as I said, short and sweet. |
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Caitskee
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 12/31/2008 : 12:31:46 AM
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I have said everything I wanted to say on previous threads other than the fact that his number does nothing to hurt the team so why is it a big deal?
Oh and I have one question for Poff.... Will you come to the next coaches show and ask Chuck Weber these questions?
1. "how do you not see that he is an idiot and takes really stupid penalties"
2. "why dont we just cut him he is not worth ANYTHING on this team. he just keeps the penalty box seat warm!" |
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R_L
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 12/31/2008 : 12:49:00 AM
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Originally posted by Caitskee
1. "how do you not see that he is an idiot and takes really stupid penalties"
2. "why dont we just cut him he is not worth ANYTHING on this team. he just keeps the penalty box seat warm!"
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clones4ever
(Finally Got A Star!)
USA
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Posted - 12/31/2008 : 01:38:54 AM
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I think if you have read my previous posts about Justin Johnson you know how I feel bout him, glad he is here and sounds like he will be here awhile 2!!! |
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hrc666
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Posted - 12/31/2008 : 03:09:12 AM
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I appreciate Johnson's hustle and willingness to mix it up. He has the true attitude of an enforcer and the requisite fighting ability. Bonneau lacked the attitude; Wilson had it but couldn't back up. So, it's nice to have a bonifide enforcer for the first time in the Weber era.
But, his penchant of taking bad penalties on the power play has worn thin. The easy solution would be for Weber to take him off the pp and let MacKenzie do duty in front of the net. Seems simple enough given that Johnson has extremely limited offensive skills. Should Latendresse and/or Beauregard return, then I think the problem of Johnson on the pp takes care of itself.
As it stands now, Johnson is an entertaining sideshow on a mediocre team. Unless this team really picks it up and looks like it will be a serious playoff contender-which it certainly isn't now-then I'd just as soon have a Johnson for his entertainment value even if he takes a ton of ridiculous penalties.
I'd rather watch stupid and spirited hockey from Johnson rather than inept and cowardly hockey from the likes of McLeod, Gordon, Sawatske, Cohen, Lynch and a few others of Weber's very mediocre recruiting class.
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cloneinator
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 12/31/2008 : 07:17:43 AM
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Originally posted by hrc666
I appreciate Johnson's hustle and willingness to mix it up. He has the true attitude of an enforcer and the requisite fighting ability. Bonneau lacked the attitude; Wilson had it but couldn't back up. So, it's nice to have a bonifide enforcer for the first time in the Weber era.
But, his penchant of taking bad penalties on the power play has worn thin. The easy solution would be for Weber to take him off the pp and let MacKenzie do duty in front of the net. Seems simple enough given that Johnson has extremely limited offensive skills. Should Latendresse and/or Beauregard return, then I think the problem of Johnson on the pp takes care of itself.
As it stands now, Johnson is an entertaining sideshow on a mediocre team. Unless this team really picks it up and looks like it will be a serious playoff contender-which it certainly isn't now-then I'd just as soon have a Johnson for his entertainment value even if he takes a ton of ridiculous penalties.
I'd rather watch stupid and spirited hockey from Johnson rather than inept and cowardly hockey from the likes of McLeod, Gordon, Sawatske, Cohen, Lynch and a few others of Weber's very mediocre recruiting class.
Johnson is certainly a topic with opinions from fans that range from one end of the spectrum to the other. This is probably the most accurate summation about him I have seen. |
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HOCKEYgod
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 12/31/2008 : 09:56:50 AM
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I think the Cyclones are in need of an enforcer, and Johnson fits that role pretty well. Let me say I don't like the guy on the ice... but I don't believe that you can continue to complain about the bad penalties that he takes because that is something that comes with the territory.
Those of you that watch enough hockey know that if a player gets a reputation for being the enforcer, you know that the officials have a tendency to call a lot more tic-tac penalties. I don't believe that you can blame the losses of this team on the efforts of one player. They are just getting BEAT in the neutral zone trap, making bad passes, not converting on power plays, and the goalies are being peppered with shots.
The call ups have killed this team and while Johnson takes penalties at bad times, we have had a number of players with the Cyclones (over the years) that did similar things. Yes, I am well aware that this team is not the OLD IHL team- but I know a lot of you watched them with me.
1993 Rick Hayward had 99 penalty minutes in 61 games
Anyone out there REMEMBER MARK LaBelle? 1995 he had over 200 penalty minutes with 218.
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