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HECKLERFROMHELL
(Been Here Awhile)
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 Posted - 03/19/2009 : 10:31:53 PM
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| Well, we won, so that's good. 5 minutes of hockey tonight was enough to get the win. I guess that's all that matters. Chic-slo still needs to get rid of the dress. Maybe he misses his pink jersey. |
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cyclonehole
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 03/19/2009 : 11:57:53 PM
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| Regardless of what you think of Chico, he is (off the top of my head) out 3rd leading scorer and is a huge reason we win games. I can only imagine how that number would be if he wasn't out half the season as well. I'm not saying don't have your opinion, but it bothers me when people stereotype players such as Syro or Starling and think they should be crushing everyone in their path just do to their size. Starling was one of the most sound defensemen in the league and his +/- spoke for itself. Syro is both a big scoring threat and brings a much-needed physical presence to the offense. I am not saying I wouldn't like to see players step up their physical game sometimes, and I can see why people get frustrated after games like last night when we were clearly "out hit", but we need to realize is Weber knows what he's doing and he knows how he wants Syro to play ... I think a Kelly Cup last year has something to say about that. |
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hrc666
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Posted - 03/19/2009 : 11:58:40 PM
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Big win tonite. Certainly not an artistic victory, but the W is the be all and end all at this time of the year.
I'm figuring that a win next Wednesday vs. Dayton and a 3-3-1 record in the 7 games vs. Trenton and Johnstown will do the trick for getting into the playoffs. Our magic number is now 16 and with 9 more points (giving us 85) that will be more than enough.
Syro just has a great deal of self control. He is a tiger waiting to be uncaged by his tamer Weber. LOL. |
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cyclonehole
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 03/20/2009 : 12:58:22 AM
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As far as the actual game, we can all let out a much-needed sigh ... but not for long. Glad to see them come out ready to take it in the 3rd. So this Van Guilder guy has returned. Also have to give Lacasse his props (even though, Gwinnett's first goal happened right in front of me and I still have no idea how it went in ... pretty much defines a fluke). I have always been in favor of giving Nie the majority of the starts but Lacasse has definitely finally proved to me that he could jump right in there.
Also nice to see a couple of nice weeknight crowds, especially after they had been on the road so long. Tonight's seemed pretty accurate around 2000, I thought there were more there last night than 1600. |
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HECKLERFROMHELL
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 03/20/2009 : 08:27:52 AM
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Originally posted by cyclonehole
Regardless of what you think of Chico, he is (off the top of my head) out 3rd leading scorer and is a huge reason we win games. I can only imagine how that number would be if he wasn't out half the season as well. I'm not saying don't have your opinion, but it bothers me when people stereotype players such as Syro or Starling and think they should be crushing everyone in their path just do to their size. Starling was one of the most sound defensemen in the league and his +/- spoke for itself. Syro is both a big scoring threat and brings a much-needed physical presence to the offense. I am not saying I wouldn't like to see players step up their physical game sometimes, and I can see why people get frustrated after games like last night when we were clearly "out hit", but we need to realize is Weber knows what he's doing and he knows how he wants Syro to play ... I think a Kelly Cup last year has something to say about that.
I agree and disagree. Chad grew on me. He was kinda boring to watch, but was a player who flat out got the job done. And I also agree Syro can score. But...a PHYSICAL PRESENCE? I don't think anyone on this board would agree with that. That's as bad as saying Farizolli is a big guy. Syro takes up space in front. That's the only type of presence he is. He gets pushed around by everyone, including the little guys. Marchesi flung him around like a rag doll last night. Syro also threw checks softer than my 8 years old. He would turn his back to the player 5 feet before attempting to hit him on the boards....and ending up missing on every single one, or softly kissing up against them once or twice. He doesn't need to drop the gloves every game, but he does need to be more of a physical presence. |
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JTest
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 03/20/2009 : 09:47:14 AM
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One word describes Syro perfectly...lazy. I simply want to see an effort out of him. He seems to be simply going through the motions. I am glad that we have him on our squad but I don't think that his heart is in it...
Just my observation.. |
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BP2011
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 03/20/2009 : 11:36:49 AM
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| I think Syro is still nervous about his injury because he is a terrific points contributer and he is one of 3 guys from last years run since miller was traded at the deadline last year. Plus it helps when Johnson, McElroy, and even Salekin can do the dirty work for you and Syro can concentrate on scoring with Ehgo and the others do. But thats my two cents worth |
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cyclonehole
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Posted - 03/20/2009 : 3:43:07 PM
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Syro takes up space in front. That's the only type of presence he is.
That's my point exactly ... the presence. He's obviously not the most physical guy, but the presence works, whether he's scoring or providing opportunities to score. I just don't get why people get worked up over something like a guy not being "physical enough" when he has been tearing it up on the offensive end since missing a large chunk of the season due to injury. My opinion is, if it's not broken, don't fix it. Last year Syro wasn't exactly a monster on the physical end either, but look where it got us. Trust Weber. If he wanted Syro to change his style, I think he would. But the way he's going now, he's scoring goals, which is more important than laying out a big hit. We should all know by now that isn't Weber's style ... hell, he just this season signed his first enforcer (no, I'm not counting the punching bag Wilson or Bonneau who was sent down). I want to once again say that I'm not saying we need to tone down the physical aspect of our game ... it is definitely frustrating at times, like Wednesday night's game against Gwinnett. This team is certainly not last year's, but after all we are currently in first place (despite how close it is) ... so I'll repeat, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. |
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Randy
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 03/20/2009 : 3:52:00 PM
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| Yeah, saying someone is lazy after having a injury is just rude. None of us talk to the players and coach everyday so there is no need to assume things like that. |
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JTest
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 03/20/2009 : 5:00:42 PM
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Randy - you simply haven't been watching the Clones for the past TWO years or you are just plain "special". Syro has played the same way for two years. This has nothing to do with him coming back from an injury. That is a terrible excuse for lack of hustle and drive. There is NO excuse for the lack of effort that he shows EVERY game.
Never did I say that I wanted him to fight or even metion the fact the he doesn't EVER check anyone. My issue was with the lack of effort - PERIOD. Pay attention to the words that people write before you make your self look like a fool.
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
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Posted - 03/20/2009 : 5:21:02 PM
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JT (JTEST) I totally agree with you.Syro isn't lazy,he just tends to not play full
force all the times.Some players "over hustle" resulting in being in the wrong place
or allowing turnovers when thet try to do too much.We had another player whose jersey is
hanging in the rafters that played just like Syro-Gilbert Dionne.Many of times I saw him
going thru the motions when the game was not on the line.These type players the coach
needs to limit their play and get the maximum out of their talent.A guy like Eghoetz will
always play hard and you have to limit him because he will tire himself out but still
take his shifts.Syro and Starlings are two players who stand tall in height but are not
fighters.Don't try to use them like that. |
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JTest
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 03/20/2009 : 6:12:45 PM
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| Thanks bags!!! |
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Buckeye011
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 03/20/2009 : 7:13:58 PM
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I think these are some fair assessments of Syro, however, what ticks me off is, where was all this trashing of Syro last year?
I completely agree, Syro is a different player this year. Some is associated with his lack of effort, some may be because of the injury earlier this year, some may be the idea that he's not getting any AHL looks from scouts, when all of his brothers have been called up by now, and he almost lead the team in goals last year....these all can be reasons for unhappiness of his play this year.
However, I just wish some people wouldnt ride on one guy, when there are several other players giving much less. Syro can be good when he has someone good next to him, which I believe was the case last year when he had high scoring threats like Oliver, Thomas B, and David D., he was just complementing their style, as were they. This year, Kilpatrick, Van Guilder, just about everyone that has been a threat, has been yo-yo'ed and that's put a lot of pressure on him to produce like he did last year.
We have many problems right now that werent the case in Jan-Feb. I myself dont believe Syro is the only problem, but I do hope he starts showing some of his form from last year soon....just my 2 cents. |
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poff34
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Posted - 03/20/2009 : 10:17:14 PM
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| JTEST i also agree with you. Randy has NO IDEA what is going on he is too drunk at the games to figure it out. |
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Buckeye011
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 03/21/2009 : 12:17:17 AM
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| Wtf...poor Randy LOL |
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cloneinator
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 03/21/2009 : 08:22:40 AM
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I wouldn't go as far as saying lazy. Maybe a little more along the lines of lacking motivation. He didn't want to be here at the beginning of the season and I think it shows some. I personnally like Syro, but I really wonder sometimes if his heart is that much in it.
I went with a couple guys from work who never attended hockey games before this year and this was probably only their third one. One of them said "Whats with that number 23, he looks like he's just going through the motions out there." I found it interesting this came unsolicited from someone who does not know the game.
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