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BP2011
(Been Here Awhile)
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 Posted - 04/28/2009 : 5:45:00 PM
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ECHL Transactions - Apr. 28
Cincinnati:
Add Kyle Rank, F returned from Portland (AHL)
however as Chuck said he might not be in the line up for game 3 but he is back with the team |
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mheck13
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 5:47:25 PM
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| Well, I think Rank will need time to recover from the flight from the Western US to NY. It's great to have him back at this time. |
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fangers
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 04/28/2009 : 11:14:08 PM
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Originally posted by mheck13
Well, I think Rank will need time to recover from the flight from the Western US to NY. It's great to have him back at this time.
...flight from the Western US???
Must have been a heck of a flight... lol
Sorry, being sarcastic - he was in Portland Maine. Probably not play because Chuck happy with the current lines... |
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hrc666
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Posted - 04/29/2009 : 02:38:40 AM
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Santorelli or Petit would be scratched in favor of Rank.
Santorelli is affiliated (with Milwaukee), and Weber plays favorites with affiliated players, so I'd think Petit would be the unlucky one. |
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BP2011
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 04/29/2009 : 11:21:01 AM
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| At least Santorelli has been a big part of the playoff push, same with Petit but Weber can say that Santorelli has played well even though he is an affiliated player but Petit is young so even if Santorelli wasnt with Milwaukee it still might be Petit because of experience |
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elvis77
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Posted - 04/29/2009 : 11:29:08 AM
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this season chuck has played affiliated players this season simply because we've been so short. chuck has many times stated that his job is to win hockey games and in order to do so will out the best team of players on the ice. last season, while the team was stacked, chuck sat affiliated players who weren't performing, so i'm not sure how you can say that he plays favorites. logic usually dictates that an affiliated player and who had regular stays in the ahl, would make the team on the ice better.
i wouldn't be surprised to see rank as a healthy scratch tonight. he arrived back in cincinnati monday afternoon and then spent 9 hours on a bus monday night; he may not have his legs under him with the extra travel.
if he is in the line up, my short list of scratches would be, in no particular order; sproat, santorelli, petit, or van guilder. none of them would be popular healthy scratches, but that's a good problem to have. when you have 3 lines that are playing well together and winning games and you get a player back that is capable of making the line up better it's a tough choice who to sit, but it creates a healthy competition within the team to perform. performing doesn't necessarily mean point and assists either; it's puck support, limiting turnovers, creating turnovers, forchecking, etc. that will keep a guy in the line up..... |
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hrc666
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Posted - 04/29/2009 : 12:48:39 PM
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Perhaps I should have stated that Weber appears to give extra weight to affiliated players when it comes to scratches. Jimmy Bonneau played in all 7 games vs. Dayton in our losing effort against them two years ago in the playoffs. His alleged enforcer abilities weren't needed and we all know how crafty JB was on offense. LOL.
Benching Sproat? Gimme a break. What are you watching? He always hustles and his play is as "heady" as anyone on the team. He also leads the team in goals (6-tied with Syro), is second in points (9) and leads the team in plus/minus at plus 7. What on earth would make him scratch material?
Van Guilder? He lead the team in scoring in the regular season. He's in a huge slump. As is his entire line including Eghoetz and Syro. Yes, Syro. If power play goals are not included, the #1 line has all of 3 even strength goals in 9 playoff games (one each). The plus/minus of this line is appalling so far. Syro (-6), Eghoetz (-5) and VanGulder (-4).
Weber absolutely will not bench Van Guilder.
Santorelli or Petit will be the scratches should Rank play. And Rank should play.
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elvis77
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Posted - 04/29/2009 : 1:55:09 PM
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line by line:
egh/chico/van guilder: egho plays in all situations and isn't going anywhere. chico has found his game again and scores too many big goals. van has been slumping, maybe he has hit wall that a lot of college kids do their first year in the pros and a night off would re-energize him.
faulkner/petit/santorelli: after faulkner's game 2 performance you can't sit him, not to mention we gave up so much to bring him here. his numbers may not show it, but petit is too creative with the puck to sit. he has great chemistry with mac. the only knock on felix is his size, but after watching elmira try to knock him around all of game 2 and rarely succeeding i don't think it's an issue. santorelli is a forechecking machine and knows when he has a shooting lane and isn't afraid to take it. rank's game is simialr to santorelli's with the exception that rank skates better.
mckenzie/sproat/kilpatrick: killer has his jump back and deserves to stay in. mckenzie is playing like a monster, he's got to stay. sproat is a smart kid and plays as smart game. he plays mostly 5 on 5 but has been thrown out on the pk when the main penalty killers have been gasses at times since dietrich was scratched.
the bottom line is we have 3 solid lines, but i can find reasons to sit someone on all of them to fit rank in, i can also find reasons to keep all the guys on my short list in. in the wheeling series the egho/chico/van line put up a tin of points was collectively -10. the santorelli/faulkner/petit line was even on the series but displayed great puck possession and forechecking ability. the sproat/killer/dietrich line finished the wheeling series on the plus side, but if you throw out game 3, i believe they become even if not a minus. with the addition of ian, that line has has become a monster as well. you have to look beyond the numbers sometimes. my short list will remain the same but i'll order it; satorelli, petit, van, sproat. replacing santorelli with rank would have the most upside as rank has a similar skill set, but is a better skater. replacing petit with rank takes creativity off that line and that line becomes a straight up grind line, which against elmira, might not be a bad thing to have. sit van for rank simply to light a fire under his ass. bring in rank for sproat to get a guy that can play in all situations.
another thought, have him play d. he played rather effectively on the blueline before he got called up.....
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"and i don't give a damn 'bout my bad reputation" - joan jett
"beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." - benjamin franklin
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hrc666
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Posted - 04/29/2009 : 2:18:30 PM
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I agree with your reasoning and your order of scratches completely.
I had forgotten about Rank playing defense while he was here. Our defensive ranks (bad pun intended) are a bit thin and if injuries do occur, then Rank adds a much needed versatility. He's this year's version of Billy Irish-Baker except that he's a bit more talented.
Santorelli and Faulkner's forechecking in the Wheeling series was out of this world good. If there wasn't a pressing need for Johnson's presence in this series, then Santorelli would be in my ideal line up even with Rank back on the roster. |
"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
--donnie hockey
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Bebe
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 04/29/2009 : 2:19:17 PM
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anyone who knows me knows Van is prolly my fav player but the more i read this discussion the more i have to believe he should be the one who sits. for whatever the reason (wall/injury/other) his game (as far as scoring goes...i think the leadership qualities are still there)is off from what we saw in the regular season. so maybe the night off will give him the bit of extra rest he needs and light that proverbial fire. it will be interesting to see what chuck does decide....and to see how rank fits in once he does crack the lineup....
guess we will find out in a few hours.....
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