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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
USA
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 Posted - 05/04/2009 : 09:19:25 AM
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First off, this goes for South Carolina,Florida or ourselves.With the
chance of Alaska (or even Las Vegas or Stockton)being the final from
the west, to save money on travel, what about a 3-3-1 format.Home team
has the first three,road the second three and final at the home field
advantage winner. Like last year,game six would have been in Las
Vegas,but game three would have been in Cincinnati. If a series goes
six games or less,the final trip would not be needed and save the
cost of that last visit.If game seven is needed,only then would it
be needed. By the way-NO WAY do I want 2-2-1-1-1. Any thoughts ? |
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 05/04/2009 : 11:08:36 AM
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| Not that interested in the 3-3-1 format, I would suppose if teams are that concerned about saving travel costs then they shouldn't be in the league. AS for our travel costs...well I might be tempted into an Alaska Trip but only for 2 games back to back. I think the 2-3-1-1 format is set up to have both arenas see their respective teams at least 2 more times in the series before being eliminated in the event that a team takes the first 2 games Suppose we went out west and lost the first three games only to come home and get swept, I would have wanted to experience more of the series than that. Not to menmtion the "percieved" advantage of home ice |
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elvis77
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Posted - 05/04/2009 : 4:36:30 PM
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3-3-1 makes absolutely no sense. if i'm the lower seed there is no way i want to go on the road for 3 games. in a 7 game series the goal of the road team is to win 1 of the 1st 2 to "negate" the home ice advantage, even if you win 1 you head home in the hole 2 games to 1. not too mention, as scuba pointed out, losing the 1st 3 and heading home needing to win 4 straight games before you even got a home game. a 3-3-1 creates too much of a home ice advantage, not only from a hockey standpoint but from a business one as well. 2-3-2, just makes more sense. it maintains a home ice advantage, but is also fair in that both teams get 2 home games. if i were the owner of a team there is no way i would sign off on a series that would only give me 1 home game. 2-3-2 keeps the basic strategies of series play in effect; the road teams job is simply to win one game on the road to force the series back into their building (if team A wins one game on the road against team B, they are guaranteed 3 home games. it then falls on team B to win 1 on the road to force the series back to their building.)
i'm with scuba on this one, if saving a small amount on travel is an issue at this point in the season to a team, then maybe that team shouldn't be in this league....it's the kelly cup finals for crying out loud. |
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
USA
2224 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2009 : 6:25:45 PM
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Okay -here's another wild idea with travel in mind. What about 3-4 with the road
team STARTING at home for three games-then off to the home field advantage team
for the final four. This way the favorite has the chance to win at home (flaw with
my first idea) and if the road team can sweep at home they only need one to win it.
No team that can't win at least one road game deserves to win the championship! |
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cove291
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 05/04/2009 : 8:31:55 PM
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| Still no good....just give it up....The road team would have the advantage for the first three games and then the home team would have to make it up if they lose the first three...its only fair starting 2-3-2 because no matter what each team at least two games at home, any other way they may not get that chance...especially the teams need two game for "attendance money" |
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
USA
2224 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2009 : 8:44:45 PM
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Let's face it -I'm bored waiting for the next round to start.Maybe we should
have stretched it to 7 games ! |
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mheck13
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 05/04/2009 : 8:49:06 PM
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| Bags, I know that you are well-meaning with your ideas, but there is no way any team management would accept these ideas. With the 3-4 idea, it won't fly because the home team would not earn much money in the worst case senerio (either team sweeps) compared to the current structure of 2-3-2. The whole idea for the 2-3-2 system is that both teams have equal amount of dates to earn revenue in case of a sweep. |
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mheck13
(The Next Level!)
USA
208 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2009 : 8:50:32 PM
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| Bags, let's just enjoy SC and FL beat each other up and wait to beat the winner. |
Cyclones hockey. A championship caliber team in a city of losers. |
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CincinnatiFan
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 05/04/2009 : 10:39:35 PM
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Originally posted by mheck13
Bags, I know that you are well-meaning with your ideas, but there is no way any team management would accept these ideas. With the 3-4 idea, it won't fly because the home team would not earn much money in the worst case senerio (either team sweeps) compared to the current structure of 2-3-2. The whole idea for the 2-3-2 system is that both teams have equal amount of dates to earn revenue in case of a sweep.
Apparently I am the exception but I liked the 3-3-1 idea. I think the savings in travel would help the teams a lot and it would make me much more inclined to make the trip. |
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elvis77
(Loves To Post!)
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Posted - 05/04/2009 : 11:38:30 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by CincinnatiFan
quote:
Originally posted by mheck13
Bags, I know that you are well-meaning with your ideas, but there is no way any team management would accept these ideas. With the 3-4 idea, it won't fly because the home team would not earn much money in the worst case senerio (either team sweeps) compared to the current structure of 2-3-2. The whole idea for the 2-3-2 system is that both teams have equal amount of dates to earn revenue in case of a sweep.
Apparently I am the exception but I liked the 3-3-1 idea. I think the savings in travel would help the teams a lot and it would make me much more inclined to make the trip.
looking at it from a purely economic view, it would be an interesting economic study to determine if the money saved by the lower seed would be greater than the potential loss of one games worth of revenue. keep in mind that during the finals last year every game was 6700+, so 1 games revenue in the playoffs isn't exactly chump change(cincy hosted 8676, 6897 and 12722. vegas hosted 6712, 7703 and 6957). the lower seed would also have higher lodging expenses for their first road trip since they would be have 3 games in 3 days at a minimun, but the trip would most likely be 3 games in 4 or 5 days versus 2 or 3 days for a 2 game trip. if the series were to end in 5 games the expense for the lower seeded team would be potentially greater than it would have been in a 2-3-2 series do to higher lodging expenses for their road trip combined with 1 less homes game (in a 3-3-1 the lower seed would only get 2 home games versus the 3 in 2-3-2 should the series end in 5.) it seems that the only way a 3-3-1 would save money for all those involved would be if the series was won in 6 games. |
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"beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." - benjamin franklin
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
USA
2224 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2009 : 09:11:44 AM
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Thanks everyone for responding.To many it sounded like a joke of an
idea but I was honest about it. I'm sure the thought of a shootout
to break a tie was first laughed at, but now it's reality. At our
level of play in this enviroment,cost cutting is a needed area to
face.I don't have a problem with the 2-3-2 system but then I start
hearing about 2-2-1-1-1 and that would kill us on travel. |
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elvis77
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Posted - 05/05/2009 : 10:40:29 AM
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| bags, while i don't see how a 3-3-1 could save money for all those involved, i agree totally that, generally speaking, a 2-2-1-1-1 is a bad idea. for divisional playoffs it would be possible to do for certain teams. had we played dayton (laughs), 2-2-1-1-1 would be fine. next season i can even see the possibility of doing it against toledo, perhaps even wheeling, but johnstown and elmira would be a stretch. personally, i think the only reason for using something besides the current 2-3-2 would have to be arena availability. |
"PBR can do that to you....1,2,3,12 beers and you're f**ked"
-oscar
"and i don't give a damn 'bout my bad reputation" - joan jett
"beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." - benjamin franklin
"is that a pulled pork sandwich i smell?"
"some things are just better without pants...."
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