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bhf303
(The Next Level!)

198 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2011 :  7:27:02 PM  Show Profile
what, if anything, would you do to improve the Cyclones for the remainder of this season?

Somersaults, thats how I roll!

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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)

USA
676 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2011 :  10:45:43 PM  Show Profile
Play all the games on the road.

:shrug:

Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama.
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bhf303
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198 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2011 :  10:59:14 PM  Show Profile
lol That was a good one!

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cove291
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USA
326 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2011 :  07:39:30 AM  Show Profile
They probably play better on the road because they get heckled by the other teams fans....At home, I sit behind the bench and I guess some the of the idiots that sit close to us think it is cool to heckle our own players. Attention: Our boys can hear us from where we sit! It doesn't encourage them to tell them if you think they are no good! I don't even know why they come? It's not like they are some real hockey experts...get a life morons!!!

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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)

USA
676 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2011 :  11:02:00 AM  Show Profile
It's pretty simple really.

Some people are idiots.

Applying more thought to it than that is a waste of time.

Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama.
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Apocalypse Sticks
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199 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2011 :  12:10:18 PM  Show Profile
I've noticed that the home-directed heckles are usually accompanied by shouts of 'Flying V.' That's usually a tell-tale sign of a jerk who has been to games before, but has brought a friend to their first game and is trying to impress them.


"What daring! What outrageousness! What insolence! What arrogance!... I salute you. "
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PressureDrop
(Rookie)

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2011 :  12:10:37 PM  Show Profile
Take Reynolds off the PP.
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bhf303
(The Next Level!)

198 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2011 :  1:37:30 PM  Show Profile
I think I would try to bring in a pure scorer or two. I dont think we have a guy like that right now. Currently, Aubin ranks 31st in the ECHL with 12 goals and 17 assists and Ehgoetz is 48th at 7 and 9. Our next player is O'Hanley ranked 67th with 6 and 17. That seems a bit enemic to me.

Im not sure who I would trade to try and bring the shooters in though.

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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)

USA
676 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2011 :  3:20:08 PM  Show Profile
It's OK to be weak in terms of scoring if you are consistently stout defensively, but we are neither. I think it was a good call to pull Cheverie Saturday night, but it really wasn't on him. He was getting pounded with shots from every direction and getting no help at all. For some reason this team does that sometimes.

The team wasn't strong in terms of scoring last year either, but the results were MUCH better. We really don't need to worry about that if the personnel we have would CONSISTENTLY play D.

Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama.
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)

865 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2011 :  4:00:02 PM  Show Profile
Lets remember that this is the the AA ECHL and there next to nothing a GM can do to improve a team mid year at this level given affiliate and salary restrictions. Half the team is under contract/control of the Florida/Milwaukee organizations and the other half aren't good enough or experienced enough to have a such a contract. No blockbuster trades etc are possible. Any such scorer would already be under contract and therefore have to be part of a trade at the NHL level. Even those scorers at the NCAA/Juniors level have most likely been already drafted by NHL teams. Best way is free agency prior to the season starting or hope the NHL team has drafted a scorer who needs ECHL experience.
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)

USA
2224 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2011 :  5:24:56 PM  Show Profile
I know with affiliation requirements the player movement is limited
but one thing I could do is announce an open tryout to anyone not
connected with a team. What this would do is first possibly find a
hidden "gem" while also sending the message to the current players
"we are not happy with the current play of our team" !
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Slapshot
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USA
271 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2011 :  5:24:57 PM  Show Profile
Keep Aubin from running his mouth... As teams leading scorer you need to focus on putting the puck in the net not trying to be the goon. He'd have double the points he has right now if he would just play the game and leave the chirping to the big boys. cove921.. ive been a season ticket holder for the past 3 years and have been around hockey my whole life and been playing for the past 20 years.. When I see a subpar performance for what Ive invested in this team i say something about it.

old time hockey bar the door, clear the track, ITS ALL OUT WAR!
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elvis77
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Posted - 01/16/2011 :  5:32:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit elvis77's Homepage  Send elvis77 an AOL message
This is one area that Weber has Skalde trumped. Chuck worked his way through the coaching ranks. He had lines in every pool of minor league hockey. As College/Junior seasons came to an end he always brought in several players. When it came to trades, he managed to the the most for the least because he knew what he needed. Chuck made some controversial moves but I can't point out one that was bad. Even the move that sent Ben Gordon and Co to Reading was one that was necessary; while Ben was finally getting it together as a Pro I don't believe the Cyclones would have completed as well as they did in the playoffs without Faulkner's leadership.

As others have mentioned, this team is built very similarly to last years. The main difference is the guys calling the shots behind the bench. If Skalde wants to put a run together he's going to have to get the Squad to tighten up defensively. There is no option for bringing in a true scorer; to many players are tied up by affiliations and it would take too many free agents to get something worth while accomplished.

One of the biggest issues is with our affiliates. Historically, MKE/NSH has been a one way street and the new deal with FLA/RCH was a joke from the get go. When you look at teams like Wheeling, Florida, Reading, etc most of the players the receive are AHL caliber players that either get caught in a numbers game at the AHL level, are head cases or need some minor tweaking to their game. The players that we are getting from the AHL, primarily from RCH, are ECHL caliber players, some (James DeLory) aren't even ECHL level. As far as NSH/MKE goes, it's been a one way street again. Although Mike Bartlett is playoff eligible, it's unlikely we won't be seeing him or Dylan Hunter any time soon if even at all.

This season's success or lack there of will be based on Skalde's leadership and planning behind the bench. The team has shown signs of improving defensively but it's slow. The pieces are what they are, the likelihood of any sort of blockbuster trade is slim. It will be up to the coaches to put the pieces together.

On the upside, with RCH on the outside looking in at the playoffs, Skalde mentioned that he was working with Santos to identify players for potential assignments to Cincinnati so they can become playoff eligble.

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hrc666
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1363 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2011 :  10:53:10 PM  Show Profile
As Elvis pointed out, the odds of getting a dynamic performer via trade is unlikely. It's a shame that Skalde's top recruit (JC Sawyer) didn't work out, because he would have certainly been a big boost for our pp. C'est La Vie.

"Pressure Drops" suggested taking Reynolds off the power play. I'll match that and go one more. Take Eghoetz off as well. These two are just not good power play players. Doesn't mean that they're not valuable to the team. But they have both been very sub par despite being on the #1 pp unit all season. Time to change that. Long overdue as a matter of fact.

I'd also fine every player who doesn't shoot when they have an opportunity inside the hash marks. Most of this team has a very mistaken view of themselves as the second coming of Wayne Gretzky. The reality is that the best pass most of these guys can make within 15 feet of the net is a rebound off their shot.

Along the lines of the previous suggestion is that the team needs to crash the net with greater enthusiasm. We have no natural goal scorers nor any top notch playmakers. For this team to score as much as it needs to have a successful season, it will have to pay a price for a lot of their opportunities. I haven't seen this team willing to pay the price more often than not. This team is averaging less than three goals per game-and even with a bit better defense and more consistent goaltending-that's not enough to get the job done. Goals are at a premium for this roster and each player has to dig down deeper and pay the price in front of the net for this team to win. As dbc likes to point out (ad nauseum), this team likes to play around the perimeter and not in front of the net. It's not working well enough.

And to everyone who thinks that it's the same team as last year and that all would be rosey if Chuck Weber was still here, check out who's in net. The Championship core which remains wouldn't have gotten out of round one of the playoffs without Jeremy Smith (and a whole lot of luck) last season. To date, neither Pickard nor Cheverie has been as good as JS or RM were last season.

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"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
--donnie hockey



Edited by - hrc666 on 01/16/2011 11:04:33 PM
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)

USA
676 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2011 :  11:25:52 PM  Show Profile
I agree and disagree.

These goalies are OK and I'd say when they are playing well they are both above average ECHL goalies. But we got lucky last year and had two VERY good goalies. Either could have been a #1 anywhere in the league.

BUT, those guys rarely got hammered by shots and scoring chances like Cheverie and Pickard are seeing on a regular basis, especially at home. The 1st period Friday night was just disgraceful. It looked like Wheeling had 7 guys out there with 3 pucks.
We've seen that sort of play multiple times this season. It really needs to stop. For obvious reasons.


Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama.
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bhf303
(The Next Level!)

198 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2011 :  10:22:02 AM  Show Profile
Well, with everything stated, it all comes back to coaching then as I see it. But is this a Skalde issue, or the team he inherited issue? What I mean by that is this, if Skalde can form his own team next year, can it be better? But then again, with the affiliations, how much control does he have in building his own team? Then there is the past performance of his last team, which wasn't that good. The argument was made previously that it was a different situation in Bloomington, one which was poor for Skalde, however, Bloomington is now in second place in their division and doing pretty well.

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