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Sinbinman
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 Posted - 01/23/2011 : 4:31:52 PM
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| All I know is this, there is ONE hockey team in this city and it is obvious even in this down year there is a fan base that supports it. That's why we are here right? Whether or not some publication ranks it make no difference to me. I did not become a hockey fan because of some publication. Of course the Reds and Bengals will get recognition, they are major league sports teams. Make no mistake however, just because the Bengals have "sold out" so many games one has to remember that they only play 8 regular season games at home a year and one of those the Steelers fans help to sell out. Simply a matter of supply and demand. I'm not here to get into a pis###g match with anyone especially fans of the Reds and Bengals, I have been a Reds fan as long as I can remember. That being said I don't think we are any different than any other minor league hockey city with the exception of the fact we have been fortunate to have a championship team the last two out of three years. To suffer a down year is to be expected from time to time...not saying we have to like it though. |
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Donnie Hockey
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USA
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Posted - 01/23/2011 : 5:02:43 PM
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Originally posted by Sinbinman
Make no mistake however, just because the Bengals have "sold out" so many games one has to remember that they only play 8 regular season games at home a year and one of those the Steelers fans help to sell out.
The Steelers fans buy tickets that have already been purchased from Bengals season ticket holders who get $50 or more above face value for their tickets.
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Sinbinman
(Rookie)
45 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2011 : 6:15:32 PM
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| I guess the season ticket holder is entitled to something since the they don't get anything of value from the Bengals ownership. How much did Kroger make over face value the many times they bought remaining tickets to ensure sellouts? |
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taoistlumberjak
(The Next Level!)
133 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2011 : 6:51:20 PM
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Donnie, if you don't like the Cyclones as much as you appear to, why do you stick around?
This isn't a shot at you, by the way. |
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Donnie Hockey
(Loves To Post!)
USA
1514 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2011 : 7:01:07 PM
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Originally posted by taoistlumberjak
Donnie, if you don't like the Cyclones as much as you appear to, why do you stick around?
This isn't a shot at you, by the way.
Things always appear in a way they're not to those who reside in Cyclonesland. |
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Randy
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 01/23/2011 : 7:14:21 PM
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Originally posted by taoistlumberjak
Donnie, if you don't like the Cyclones as much as you appear to, why do you stick around?
That is the holy answer all of us would like to know. It's also why just about every thread he posts in becomes all but negativity here |
Cyclones Fan, Win or Lose
Bengals Fan - Never! |
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jsun51
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Posted - 01/23/2011 : 7:21:47 PM
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| What I want to know is why people keep responding to him. All he's doing is trying to get a reaction out of people, which he's doing a good job of. If you stop responding, maybe he will too. |
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
676 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2011 : 7:23:32 PM
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I've lived here for 4 years and had Cyclones season tickets for 3 of them. As a lifetime hockey person that has lived in multiple cities (big and small) here is my take.
1. Cincinnati is absolutely NOT a "hockey town." There is absolutely a core group of great fans that support the team, but it is probably less than 2000 people. A sad but true point is that for any given game if there are 5000 people in the arena 2000 of them are true hockey fans and team supporters. The other 3000 are there for cheap beer/pizza/BBQ or to feed their kids for free.
At any given time, from my seat, if I take inventory of the 20 people closest to me only about half of them are paying attention to the game or know what they are watching.
Last night there was a TON more fan effort put into trying to get free TShirts than cheering the boys on the ice.
Sorry if that offends some of you, but as an outsider recently putting fresh eyes on the situation this is what I see.
2. It annoys me to death to be surrounded by kids or drunks that aren't even watching the game, but if that's what it takes to put butts in seats and keep a hockey team in this town for the 2000 of us that really care... OK. Whatever it takes.
3. Why do you guys keep having these conversations? Seriously.
Donnie... Let it go.
Everyone that responds to Donnie... Let it go.
LETS
PLAY
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Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama. |
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taoistlumberjak
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 01/23/2011 : 7:33:28 PM
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Originally posted by Donnie Hockey
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Originally posted by taoistlumberjak
Donnie, if you don't like the Cyclones as much as you appear to, why do you stick around?
This isn't a shot at you, by the way.
Things always appear in a way they're not to those who reside in Cyclonesland.
I was just asking a question, there's no need to take personal shots at me.
However, I do have another question. With the appearance on the scene of a second minor league hockey team in the city during the mid-nineties, and this during a stretch of excellent attendance to minor league hockey games, is there a chance that the so-called "splitting of the fanbase" may have had an effect on the hockey culture in this city? |
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Donnie Hockey
(Loves To Post!)
USA
1514 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2011 : 8:13:18 PM
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Originally posted by taoistlumberjak
I was just asking a question, there's no need to take personal shots at me.
However, I do have another question. With the appearance on the scene of a second minor league hockey team in the city during the mid-nineties, and this during a stretch of excellent attendance to minor league hockey games, is there a chance that the so-called "splitting of the fanbase" may have had an effect on the hockey culture in this city?
Relax. I wasn't taking a shot at you.
To answer your question, there never should have been two teams to begin with. The AHL should never have allowed a second team to go into Cincinnati. Having two teams at the same time had an adverse affect on the hockey culture in the city, but there were other factors involved that changed it as well. |
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AwesomeSauce
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 01/24/2011 : 1:25:11 PM
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| Totally agree with Catch22. Cincinnati is not a hockey town,and never will be. The current ownership and management does do a great job promoting the team though. The local media does not. Attendence has increased every year the last few seasons,but yes that does have more to do with cheap beer and food than a new found love of the game in the area. |
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)
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676 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2011 : 3:01:00 PM
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It's an odd phenomenon. We lived in Atlanta back in the 90s when the Braves were at their peak, but Atlanta really isn't a baseball town. Never has been and never will be. They LOVE football and thats about it.
Back when the Braves were dominating they still couldn't sell the place out until the playoffs, and even then it was MADDENING to try to watch the games because hardly anybody in the stands actually gave a crap about what was happening on the field. They were there because it was a social occassion and "The place to be."
Conversely, if you go to a Canadiens game in Montreal or a Packers game in Green Bay it borders on being a religious experience. If you were texting, talking on the phone or letting your kids run around unattended during one of those games they'd probably kill you and hide your body under the seat.
And lord help you if you get up and try to leave with 2 minutes left and a tight score. You know... to beat the traffic.
Want a good sign that you don't live in a hockey town... Hundreds of people leaving with 90 seconds left in a one goal game. See last Saturday night for reference.
It is what it is. Just be glad we have a team, we manage to get enough gate to keep the team, and the team is historically pretty good. Take that and be happy because its the best you are going to do around here.
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bhf303
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 01/24/2011 : 7:13:08 PM
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| I dont get that either. Why is Cincy not a hockey town? Our football has sucked for years and years. Our baseball had its day in the sun, but it isnt great, although I do love the Reds. I just dont get why Cincy doesnt do as well in Hockey as opposed to some other cities out there that do. |
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new_cyclones_fan
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USA
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Posted - 01/24/2011 : 9:53:44 PM
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I dont get that either. Why is Cincy not a hockey town? Our football has sucked for years and years. Our baseball had its day in the sun, but it isnt great, although I do love the Reds. I just dont get why Cincy doesnt do as well in Hockey as opposed to some other cities out there that do.
College Basketball.
UC, Xavier, UK, Louisville, Dayton, NKU, Miami, ... the market is saturated. I dread listening to the local media during the period between the Super Bowl and when pitchers and catchers report for spring training. Don't even get me started on March Sadness.
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 01/25/2011 : 5:02:24 PM
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Having grown up in an original six town I can give my opinions as to why Cinn is not a hockey town. As a kid we couldn't wait to get outside in the winter to play on the ponds ( with no boards and chasing pucks for what seemed a mile). Hockey was a high school sport. Fans played the game even if just street hockey. It was just there!!. Don't want to sound condescending and appreciate the growing fan support at Cyclone games, but 80% don't know anything except the basic rules ( if that) about the game. Nothing worse than having someone sitting near you that has no idea of what he is yelling at, especially penalty calls. They don't know you are not allowed to check someone who does not have the puck or making a play on the puck as an an example At a baseball, basketball or football game 80% do know the rules and 99% of the men played at some level if just little league or even with a hoop on someone's driveway. People can relate at some level. With hockey here most can't. They like the speed and the physical play but don't understand the subtleties. To them a 1-0 game is boring when in fact it could be a great game. If you took a poll at a Cyclones game on how many people actually have played a game of hockey on ice you might find a hundred. Just look at the between period entertainment when people try and shoot a puck. No idea of how to do it.
Even today there are some NHL towns that are not "hockey towns". Columbus is one. While some teams may draw well, there are a lot of transplants from the cold weather belt that attend as well as corporate tickets but very little local tradition.
lastly-it is a horrible TV sport. Even I can't follow the puck a lot of times and only pick it up because I can assume where it is or what kind of pass was made by where the skaters are going or how they react. Hard for someone with no first hand experience to enjoy if they cant follow the puck and don't understand the rules and strategies.
That given, there are no more loyal fans than hockey fans and the base is growing. Love to see the kids at games here and the junior programs in town. Let someone play and they will be a fan for life.
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Edited by - dbc on 01/25/2011 5:10:14 PM |
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