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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
USA
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 Posted - 01/31/2011 : 06:02:59 AM
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Reading........57
Greenville......56
Wheeling.......56
Florida..........54
S. Carolina.....50
Gwinnett.......47
CINCINNATI..45
Kalamazoo.....44
Elmira............43
Toledo...........41
Trenton.........34
From 9th to 7th with one win. Just as fast we could go the other way.
Time to quit fighting and play hockey just like we've done these last
two games against South Carolina- solid defense and no stupid penalties. |
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
676 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2011 : 11:00:06 AM
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We are absolutely a better team than 'Zoo, Toledo, Elmira, and Trenton. We need to bat at least .750 against those guys the rest of the year and we'll make the playoffs.
Once you're there, anything can happen. |
Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama. |
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elvis77
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1435 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2011 : 11:52:34 AM
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I stated it over at CycWords several times. The Cyclones will need a minimum of 75 points to make the playoffs, 80 would be better. They will have to win roughly 60% of the games from here on out to do that.
The team is an enigma. The rest of our Division struggles with Southern teams yet the Cyclones handle them fine while struggling within Their own Division.
This series with SC is only surprising to me in one regard. It's not that the Cyclones have played so well defensively against the Rays, but that They have put up 9 goals, several on the PP, against a team that is pretty strong defensively. I'll have more on CycWords after Wednesday's game. |
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
865 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2011 : 3:35:16 PM
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For the last 23 games starting Feb 16, 13 are against Toledo (5H, 1A) and Kzoo (3H, 4A) including the last six games (3 against each). We will control our own future. Will be interesting to see the "new" Clones play these teams as we have not played well against them all year as they are large teams that forecheck the hell out of us and we end up with mid-low 20s shots on goal.
Eight of the other 10 are against the south (1H, 7A). I have been worried about this seven game trip south all year but our record against them thus far has been great having won the last five games with lots more shots against them. Our faster more positioned play seems to match up well against this southern approach so I am a lot more hopeful we can have a good trip. The key though is Toledo and K-zoo and the last six games of the year should be fun!!
Bags, great point on penalties this weekend--or the lack there of. In addition to playing good up tempo hockey, we also played disciplined hockey. We lead the conference in penalty minutes but now is the time to play smart. It was the SC player who lost his cool Sunday for 4 minutes in the box resulting in two pp goals. |
Edited by - dbc on 01/31/2011 3:40:41 PM |
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
676 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2011 : 3:57:42 PM
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I'm not that worried about offensive production if we can continue to play like we did this weekend defensively. As I mentioned earlier, SC had very few good chances and not much space to work with in the offensive zone. I think they only got one good look from the slot the whole game, and *I* could have saved a whole bunch of the looks they did get.
This is largely how last year's team found success, and I can PROMISE you Marc and Chet will gain a ton of confidence if the boys keep playing like that in front of them.
Play like that on D and fight for rebounds and stay strong in the corners offensively for the rest of the year and we'll walk into the playoffs.
Hockey doesn't *need* to be fast and pretty. There are lots of ways to win.
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Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama. |
Edited by - Catch22 on 01/31/2011 3:59:24 PM |
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hrc666
(Loves To Post!)
1363 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2011 : 8:17:31 PM
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Are they over the hump? I hope so. But, the abysmal home ice performance overall this season needs more than two games against the same opponent to prove that to me. 12 of the next 15 games are on home ice. I'd think that 8 wins (of the home ice 12) would put us in a real strong place for a playoff berth.
I wonder what Skalde might have up his sleeve. He's pretty deeply connected in the hockey world (thanks in no part to having played for 26 teams ). It would be nice (newly found consistent offensive production notwithstanding) to get a proven scorer. The options would be players returning from Europe (Olivier Latandresse, Cory Urquhart types), Canadien Junior players and, of course, anyone who has ever played at Mercyhurst. One or two aquisitions could really solidify this roster.
I really hope Pickard can string together a few strong performances. Should he regain confidence, then-one would think-he could dominate at this level. Should Cheverie pick it up a notch or so, then the Cyclones could have the solidity which we've always had in goal come playoff time. Solid goaltending allows a team to achieve to its potential. Let's hope this key part of the puzzle keeps coming into place.
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"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
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elvis77
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Posted - 01/31/2011 : 10:42:50 PM
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Don't get excited about the defense as the Rays aren't exactly an offensive powerhouse; coming into the series they had only scored 7 more goals on the year than our anemic offense. They have been winning games based off of their defense. Thus the reason I'm more impressed with the Cyclones offensive production.
I was expecting these games with SC to be low scoring. The fact that we've put up the Cyclones have put up 9 goals in 2 games against a team that gives up few goals is impressive.
I really hope catch22's belief in the Cyclones defensive play proves to be correct and the Cyclones can shut down Wheeling's offense this weekend; with only 3 games left against the Nailers the Cyclones can't afford to give up any more points to them in the head to head. |
"PBR can do that to you....1,2,3,12 beers and you're f**ked"
-oscar
"and i don't give a damn 'bout my bad reputation" - joan jett
"beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." - benjamin franklin
"is that a pulled pork sandwich i smell?"
"some things are just better without pants...."
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
676 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 10:31:51 AM
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Well, a bunch of the scoring chances were created by strong D on Sunday. Much more than we have been seeing.
BUT, as I said, we need to see it consistently before we get excited. As I said after the successful Florida trip, maybe we just match up really well against THOSE guys and when we skate with Wheeling we'll get embarrassed again.
I hope not. But it's a fat possibility.
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Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama. |
Edited by - Catch22 on 02/01/2011 4:16:00 PM |
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AwesomeSauce
(The Next Level!)
159 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 1:12:12 PM
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| Skalde mentioned in the pre-game interview with Nick Brunker Sunday that Cheverie and Pickard will get starts in a pre-determined rotation regardless of performance. He mentioned that should help the two of them prepare. Going to be interesting to see how they respond down the stretch. |
Edited by - AwesomeSauce on 02/01/2011 1:15:56 PM |
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elvis77
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Posted - 02/01/2011 : 3:03:50 PM
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Originally posted by AwesomeSauce
Skalde mentioned in the pre-game interview with Nick Brunker Sunday that Cheverie and Pickard will get starts in a pre-determined rotation regardless of performance. He mentioned that should help the two of them prepare. Going to be interesting to see how they respond down the stretch.
The rotation system always seemed to work for Chuck when he had 2 capable net minders. |
"PBR can do that to you....1,2,3,12 beers and you're f**ked"
-oscar
"and i don't give a damn 'bout my bad reputation" - joan jett
"beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." - benjamin franklin
"is that a pulled pork sandwich i smell?"
"some things are just better without pants...."
www.cycwords.wordpress.com |
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fangers
(The Next Level!)
USA
262 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 3:17:56 PM
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Originally posted by AwesomeSauce
Skalde mentioned in the pre-game interview with Nick Brunker Sunday that Cheverie and Pickard will get starts in a pre-determined rotation regardless of performance. He mentioned that should help the two of them prepare. Going to be interesting to see how they respond down the stretch.
WTF??? If this doesn't prove that skalde has no business behind a bench at this level then I don't know what does.
1. If they can't approach & prepare for each game as if they are the starter then they don't belong at this level. Allowing this just excuses bad habits (preparation wise).
2. If there is no reward for playing well, or no consequence for playing bad, then what motivation do they have?
I've seen this done at peewee level youth, but pros??? |
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hrc666
(Loves To Post!)
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Posted - 02/01/2011 : 3:53:14 PM
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Originally posted by fangers
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Originally posted by AwesomeSauce
Skalde mentioned in the pre-game interview with Nick Brunker Sunday that Cheverie and Pickard will get starts in a pre-determined rotation regardless of performance. He mentioned that should help the two of them prepare. Going to be interesting to see how they respond down the stretch.
WTF??? If this doesn't prove that skalde has no business behind a bench at this level then I don't know what does.
1. If they can't approach & prepare for each game as if they are the starter then they don't belong at this level. Allowing this just excuses bad habits (preparation wise).
2. If there is no reward for playing well, or no consequence for playing bad, then what motivation do they have?
I've seen this done at peewee level youth, but pros???
Still hatin' on the coach, I see.
You hated him when he was hired (based on some heresay) and that hasn't abated one bit.
Perhaps you have no business judging a coach at this level? Rotation of goalies at all levels of pro hockey is commonplace and this thing called affiliation works itself into the picture.
Read up on this affiliation stuff and get up to speed. |
"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
--donnie hockey
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
676 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 4:21:09 PM
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Yeah, There is no way you could sit an affiliated goaltender at this level for any period of time. Playing time is WHY THE GUY IS HERE.
Skalde has to play both of them, so kudos to him for trying to find a system that works well for both of them.
Every once in a while some of you guys need to be reminded that this is a developmental AA hockey league and we have two NHL affiliates pulling strings. You take the pluses and the minuses with that.
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Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama. |
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bhf303
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 02/01/2011 : 6:26:49 PM
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| A nice little win streak is just what they need right now. Maybe they can use the Rays series to build on going down the stretch and pick up some wins in our division. |
Somersaults, thats how I roll! |
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
865 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 6:42:46 PM
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| Home and home this weekend with Wheeling. That will tell a lot about our ability to use the team's new approach against a big forechecking team like Wheeling. Hopefully they will use the results of the blow out loss the last time Wheeling was here for a little extra motivation. |
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elvis77
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Posted - 02/01/2011 : 6:53:22 PM
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Originally posted by fangers
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Originally posted by AwesomeSauce
Skalde mentioned in the pre-game interview with Nick Brunker Sunday that Cheverie and Pickard will get starts in a pre-determined rotation regardless of performance. He mentioned that should help the two of them prepare. Going to be interesting to see how they respond down the stretch.
WTF??? If this doesn't prove that skalde has no business behind a bench at this level then I don't know what does.
1. If they can't approach & prepare for each game as if they are the starter then they don't belong at this level. Allowing this just excuses bad habits (preparation wise).
2. If there is no reward for playing well, or no consequence for playing bad, then what motivation do they have?
I've seen this done at peewee level youth, but pros???
In the Pros. Where have you been for the 4 years under Chuck Weber. The rotating goalie scheme was a staple of Weber's game plan when he had both affiliated goalies, especially in 06-07 and 07-08. The only times he got away from it was when he didn't have 2 suitable net minders. |
"PBR can do that to you....1,2,3,12 beers and you're f**ked"
-oscar
"and i don't give a damn 'bout my bad reputation" - joan jett
"beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." - benjamin franklin
"is that a pulled pork sandwich i smell?"
"some things are just better without pants...."
www.cycwords.wordpress.com |
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