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Apocalypse Sticks
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)
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 Posted - 03/09/2011 : 3:29:40 PM
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HA!
But he was apparently spongeworthy.
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Slapshot
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 03/09/2011 : 4:37:13 PM
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| Elbow up, hand it the face pushing him into the pole, history between these two players. Looks like it was on purpose to me... Is it possible to get a freeze frame of the OHL hit for comparison? Im not tech savy enough for it. There has been a lot of debate about positioning during the hit and a picture might end it... |
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 03/09/2011 : 5:02:10 PM
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Who cares.
My point was not about the nitpickings of the hits. It's about the tendency of people to show bias and hold some players accountable for actions and not others.
Liambas makes a hit that cracks a head and people want him burned at the stake.
Chara slams a head into a post, cracks a vertebrae and gives a serious concussion and it is apparently OK because he is Chara. Late breaking news... Not even a suspension.
Thats a load of horse crap right there.
Earlier this year Tim Gleason got suspended for punching a guy that PUNCHED HIM FIRST. Now Chara cracks a vertebrae on a post and everything is candy and unicorn farts.
If Gleason makes that EXACT same hit the NHL suspends him for the season MINIMUM. I guarantee it.
Intent to injure is intent to injure. I don't care if it is the Dali Llama. If you care about the future of your kid's head playing the sport it shouldn't matter WHOSE elbow it was.
My point... Lay off Liambas unless you are going to equally spout the venom everywhere it is deserved. Don't spray hate at one guy while making excuses and justifying another.
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AwesomeSauce
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 03/09/2011 : 6:17:05 PM
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Originally posted by Catch22
Who cares.
My point was not about the nitpickings of the hits. It's about the tendency of people to show bias and hold some players accountable for actions and not others.
Liambas makes a hit that cracks a head and people want him burned at the stake.
Chara slams a head into a post, cracks a vertebrae and gives a serious concussion and it is apparently OK because he is Chara. Late breaking news... Not even a suspension.
Thats a load of horse crap right there.
Earlier this year Tim Gleason got suspended for punching a guy that PUNCHED HIM FIRST. Now Chara cracks a vertebrae on a post and everything is candy and unicorn farts.
If Gleason makes that EXACT same hit the NHL suspends him for the season MINIMUM. I guarantee it.
Intent to injure is intent to injure. I don't care if it is the Dali Llama. If you care about the future of your kid's head playing the sport it shouldn't matter WHOSE elbow it was.
My point... Lay off Liambas unless you are going to equally spout the venom everywhere it is deserved. Don't spray hate at one guy while making excuses and justifying another.
Looks to me like the intent there was to take Pacioretty out of the game. I would hope it wasnt to injure Pacioretty so severely. There is definitely hypocrisy when it comes to dealing with these incidents in the NHL. Even without intent Chara should have been atleast fined. He knew where he was on the ice,it was an completely irresponsible play. |
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bags
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elvis77
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 12:25:20 PM
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Originally posted by dbc
Will Chara get suspended--yes. Does he deserve it--yes--it was a "substantial injury" to a player during a penalty ( interference). Boston papers say a suspension is justified. Did he run the guy into the pole on purpose--read the Montreal papers and listened to NHL channel on Sirius and even all of them say not on purpose. Their complaint is he should have known where the post was but I haven't seen any papers from Montreal or Boston say he did it on purpose or with intent to injure. Does Chara have a reputation and history as a goon?--no-former Norris Award winner and multiple all-star. Is he an enforcer. He will come to the aide of a teammate while on the ice but he is not used as an enforcer by Boston as he is too valuable to be sitting for five minutes. Sean Thornton plays that roleand has as many goals this year (8) as Liambas has in his distinguished career in junior, college, and CHL play. Neither Chara or Thornton are one dimensional players
Chara didn't get suspended or fined which is a travesty. It also goes to the subjective nature that is discipline in the world of hockey. |
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dbc
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 1:00:05 PM
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TORONTO National Hockey League Senior Vice President of Hockey Operations Mike Murphy today issued the following statement on Boston Bruins defenseman Zdeno Chara's hit in NHL game #996 last night against the Montreal Canadiens:
"I conducted a hearing with Boston Bruins' defenseman Zdeno Chara with respect to the major penalty for interference and game misconduct that he was assessed at 19:44 of the second period for a hit on Max Pacioretty of the Montreal Canadiens.
"After a thorough review of the video I can find no basis to impose supplemental discipline. This hit resulted from a play that evolved and then happened very quickly -- with both players skating in the same direction and with Chara attempting to angle his opponent into the boards. I could not find any evidence to suggest that, beyond this being a correct call for interference, that Chara targeted the head of his opponent, left his feet or delivered the check in any other manner that could be deemed to be dangerous.
"This was a hockey play that resulted in an injury because of the player colliding with the stanchion and then the ice surface. In reviewing this play, I also took into consideration that Chara has not been involved in a supplemental discipline incident during his 13-year NHL career."
I also listened to the prior head of NHL officiating last night who also said it was a good hit gone bad with terrible results. Also pointed out Chara had never had supplemental discipline by the league and as big and strong as Chara is, he goes out of his way not to check and hit as hard as he could because he realizes he could injure someone just because of those physical factors
By the way, I have never said anything bad about Liambas personally or spouted hate. Never met him never talked with him. My bitch is with the Cyclones for signing him because his self inflicted history and reputation- which he evidently is proud of- are not 1) what the Cyclone needed at this point and I can't figure out what he brings except a chance of taking a stupid penalty, and 2) not the type of player I like seeing playing the game. Enforcers yes by all means--goons no. They signed him and I expressed my displeasure. Thats all. Nuff said |
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 5:35:24 PM
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So I guess that means that every player will now get a "free pass" on
the first dirty hit they dish out. Does this also mean Chara will now
have the book thrown at him the next time. That doesn't do much for
Montreal and Max Pacioretty. |
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