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clones4ever
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 12:29:43 PM
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quote: Originally posted by elvis77
JTest i was wondering that exact same thing. kell hit JJ from behind after the whistle and came from the other side of the ice to do so he only gets 2 minors for roughing out of it. if something like that happens during play the player would usually get called for a boarding or charging major, never mind the fact that fell's hit was several seconds after the whistle. the only answer i can come up with is barry pochmara. the guy is just plain terrible. with the stuff that he allows to go on, checks long after a player has moved the puck, the clutching and grabing, is it any wonder games get "chippy"
that being said, yeah barry dropped tha ball calling that skirmish but can we reall complain that much...we did have 9 freaking power plays. that has more to do with how active trenton is with their sticks. trenton did a great job of tying up our sticks making it hard to get passes off receive passes or merely skate with the puck at all. i'm not saying that the reason we looked like crap because even the unimpeded passes were so far off that it wouldn't have made a difference last night, but i am saying that it trenton is going to play that way they are going to take a fair amount of tripping/interference penalties. if it happens tonite we have to be ready to capitalize on them...
My real question is this why didn't the Trenton player that was pulling Justin into the Trenton bench get a penalty!!! |
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ClonesFanNKY
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 12:55:41 PM
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quote: Originally posted by clones4ever
quote: Originally posted by elvis77
JTest i was wondering that exact same thing. kell hit JJ from behind after the whistle and came from the other side of the ice to do so he only gets 2 minors for roughing out of it. if something like that happens during play the player would usually get called for a boarding or charging major, never mind the fact that fell's hit was several seconds after the whistle. the only answer i can come up with is barry pochmara. the guy is just plain terrible. with the stuff that he allows to go on, checks long after a player has moved the puck, the clutching and grabing, is it any wonder games get "chippy"
that being said, yeah barry dropped tha ball calling that skirmish but can we reall complain that much...we did have 9 freaking power plays. that has more to do with how active trenton is with their sticks. trenton did a great job of tying up our sticks making it hard to get passes off receive passes or merely skate with the puck at all. i'm not saying that the reason we looked like crap because even the unimpeded passes were so far off that it wouldn't have made a difference last night, but i am saying that it trenton is going to play that way they are going to take a fair amount of tripping/interference penalties. if it happens tonite we have to be ready to capitalize on them...
My real question is this why didn't the Trenton player that was pulling Justin into the Trenton bench get a penalty!!!
They did, That was the Bench Minor penalty. |
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hrc666
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 12:58:58 PM
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quote: Originally posted by JTest
Great crowd - if you call giving away free tickets in order to fill stands........
Just curious. How do you know that the Cyclones gave away tickets? |
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ClonesFanNKY
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 1:05:53 PM
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quote: Originally posted by tamg4393
FYI. From a source inside the Cyclones, Syroczynski will be back in 2 weeks.
I talked to Syro last night and he said he goes to the DR on the 20th should be cleared to play and will be on the ice for the dayton game on the 24th may even be the 23rd. FYI JJ said it's on like Donkey Kong tonight(but not in them words lol but that what he meant)so be there earily I wouldn't want to miss the opening face off. |
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cove291
(The Next Level!)
 
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 1:10:57 PM
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quote: Originally posted by hrc666
quote: Originally posted by JTest
Great crowd - if you call giving away free tickets in order to fill stands........
Just curious. How do you know that the Cyclones gave away tickets?
He probably got the information from CD on Hecklers Grove....you know they have all the facts over there.. |
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ClonesFanNKY
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 1:53:01 PM
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They didn't give away tickets WTF some people I Beleive they still give away group discounts but they don't just give away tickets. How do I know B/C i ask and they said that tickets are cheep enough at $10 why should we have to give them away for free? And if you ever get a free ticket please tell me where you got it so i can get me a few for my kids. One more thing B4 some smart a$$ comes on here and says "Well i got a free one for giving blood" well that wasn't free you had to give something to get it( or if you showed up and couldn't give blood for some reason you still got 1 but u still had to do something "fill out paper work" to get it.) Sorry Jim end of my rant |
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elvis77
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 2:15:41 PM
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quote: Originally posted by ClonesFanNKY
They didn't give away tickets WTF some people I Beleive they still give away group discounts but they don't just give away tickets. How do I know B/C i ask and they said that tickets are cheep enough at $10 why should we have to give them away for free? And if you ever get a free ticket please tell me where you got it so i can get me a few for my kids. One more thing B4 some smart a$$ comes on here and says "Well i got a free one for giving blood" well that wasn't free you had to give something to get it( or if you showed up and couldn't give blood for some reason you still got 1 but u still had to do something "fill out paper work" to get it.) Sorry Jim end of my rant
in the past people who work for the team or USBA get 2 tickets to each game and most go friends and family, or get stock piled by the so they can bring in a large group of family or friends...this is especially true of the players tickets.
also, if you know anyone involved high up with the ownership group you can sometimes get tix that way.
bottom line is they feel they shouldn't have to give away tickets given the fact that they are priced very fairly. gone are the days when cincinnati hockey teams send interns out to to give away stacks of free tickets..... |
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 2:55:19 PM
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The Cyclones run the tighest ship in the ECHL when it comes to distributing free tickets. They're also the most honest team in the ECHL when it comes to their announced attendance.
The Cyclones are doing it right. They have to re-educate the market that hockey tickets aren't free. If that means a lot of bad nights then so be it. The only way a Cyclones ticket can have any value is if people have to open their wallet to get one.
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 3:43:39 PM
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HEY-I got two free tickets ! All I had to do was buy a SEASON TICKET. Bottom line is we had a great crowd,except for the score,everyone seemed to be having a great time.Does anyone know anything about the car giveaway? Our pucks didn't make it in the window so we didn't stick around.
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justmom
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 5:37:34 PM
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| The boy scout tickets were $10 a ticket and they got the group gift of a t-shirt. I have a friend who oranized her son's scout group. I also know that the clones gave some buy one adult get one kid free coupons to a high school hockey event which was held over break. It's not a free ticket but it's a coupon and it's still a paying customer. |
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fangers
(The Next Level!)
 
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Posted - 01/10/2009 : 5:49:54 PM
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quote: Originally posted by elvis77
the goal, which happened right in front of me, was a shot from the point that was not particularly hard. he may have been screened slightly,but the shot got through clean, and you could tell from his reaction that even he felt it was soft. nie was in proper position but when i shot like that gets through the 5-hole it says it a was a bit of a technique breakdown; not keeping the knees squeezed together when in the butterfly. it's a common breakdown and you see it in goalies of all levels.
So now you're a goalie expert? So, how long have you played goalie? Exactly what technique should he have used? Maybe you should approach Chuck about being the team goalie coach...
It's better to be quiet and be thought a fool then to open your mouth (or type on a forum) and remove all doubt.
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hrc666
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 12:19:33 AM
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quote: Originally posted by hrc666
We have gone from a team which was averaging scoring 4 goals per game to a team which is hard-pressed to generate any consistent offense. Other than Eghoetz, Kilpatrick and Van Guilder, we have basically zero offense from the rest of our forwards now. From the blueline, McElroy has been stellar offensively and St. Denis is adding almost an assist per game. The rest of the defensemen should probably lay their sticks down at center ice when we're in the offensive zone for all they're worth offensively.
We have now lost 8 of our last 9 on home ice. Our power play is 16% on the season-mediocre overall, but probably converting far less of late. Our penalty kill is dead last in the league allowing opponents goals on almost 1 of 4 chances which is simply pitiful.
We have several players-MacLeod, Sawatske, Gordon, Scero, and worst of all, Gajewski-who flat out stink. And several others who are just plain bad.
Until Syroczynski and Beauregard return (I assume TB will ultimately be sent down), this team is borderline hopeless. It does nothing well and most things poorly.
The only bright spots of late are the aquisition of Nie, Sproat and Wyman. Nie is a proven solid commodity. Sproat has good speed and it would nice to see him on a line with Kilpatrick and Van Guilder to see what he can do. Wyman is an excellent skater. I haven't seen enough of him to get a read on his overall abilities.
The game on Friday was simply pathetic. From Gajewski's pitiful drop of a softball which was knocked in on the rebound 13 seconds into the game to the joke of the power play. Johnson's fight with Harrison and skirmish with the Trenton bench were the only highlights of the game.
The Cyclones have so many weaknesses that the only cure will be to sign veteran players returning from Europe. I doubt that this will be done, but I see no other way of this team becoming decent. The talent simply isn't here. Any team which features a power play with Ben MacLeod, Ben Gordon and Paul Lynch on it just ain't gonna get it done. Ever.
Jim-Someone must have had access to my account. Only an idiot could post this nonsense
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elvis77
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 01:57:32 AM
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quote: Originally posted by fangers
quote: Originally posted by elvis77
the goal, which happened right in front of me, was a shot from the point that was not particularly hard. he may have been screened slightly,but the shot got through clean, and you could tell from his reaction that even he felt it was soft. nie was in proper position but when i shot like that gets through the 5-hole it says it a was a bit of a technique breakdown; not keeping the knees squeezed together when in the butterfly. it's a common breakdown and you see it in goalies of all levels.
So now you're a goalie expert? So, how long have you played goalie? Exactly what technique should he have used? Maybe you should approach Chuck about being the team goalie coach...
It's better to be quiet and be thought a fool then to open your mouth (or type on a forum) and remove all doubt.
i've played goalie for roughly the past 6 years since you ask. i'm not saying i'm an expert but i've been around the game long enough to know a break down when i see one. that goal happened while we were on the PK and as they say your goalie has to be your best penalty killer and nie wasn't on that ONE shot. i don't want to take away anything from what he did before that or after that. i like nie, i think he is an upgrade to our team, but that on moment in time is what it is....
oh...and as far as what technique should he have used? he needed to do a better job of squeezing the knees together. to nie's defense on that shot...i know from experience that when a shot is miss hit, or comes in at an odd velocity it can throw timing off. think of seeing 90+ mph shots and then suddenly seeing a random 50 mph shot, it's like watching a batter in a baseball game try to sloow down to hit a 65mph pitch after seeing a 95 mph fast ball.... |
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cloneinator
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 11:17:50 AM
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quote: Originally posted by elvis77
quote: Originally posted by fangers
quote: Originally posted by elvis77
the goal, which happened right in front of me, was a shot from the point that was not particularly hard. he may have been screened slightly,but the shot got through clean, and you could tell from his reaction that even he felt it was soft. nie was in proper position but when i shot like that gets through the 5-hole it says it a was a bit of a technique breakdown; not keeping the knees squeezed together when in the butterfly. it's a common breakdown and you see it in goalies of all levels.
So now you're a goalie expert? So, how long have you played goalie? Exactly what technique should he have used? Maybe you should approach Chuck about being the team goalie coach...
It's better to be quiet and be thought a fool then to open your mouth (or type on a forum) and remove all doubt.
i've played goalie for roughly the past 6 years since you ask. i'm saying i'm an expert but i've been around the game long enough to know a break down when i see one. that goal happened while we were on the PK and as they say your goalie has to be your best penalty killer and nie wasn't on that ONE shot. i don't want to take away anything from what he did before that or after that. i like nie, i think he is an upgrade to our team, but that on moment in time is what it is....
oh...and as far as what technique should he have used? he needed to do a better job of squeezing the knees together. to nie's defense on that shot...i know from experience that when a shot is miss hit, or comes in at an odd velocity it can throw timing off. think of seeing 90+ mph shots and then suddenly seeing a random 50 mph shot, it's like watching a batter in a baseball game try to sloow down to hit a 65mph pitch after seeing a 95 mph fast ball....
Ouch "Fangers"...looks like you may want to look at your own advice, specifically, "It's better to be quiet and be thought a fool then to open your mouth (or type on a forum) and remove all doubt." LMAO |
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fangers
(The Next Level!)
 
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 12:42:30 PM
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quote: Originally posted by elvis77
quote: Originally posted by fangers
quote: Originally posted by elvis77
the goal, which happened right in front of me, was a shot from the point that was not particularly hard. he may have been screened slightly,but the shot got through clean, and you could tell from his reaction that even he felt it was soft. nie was in proper position but when i shot like that gets through the 5-hole it says it a was a bit of a technique breakdown; not keeping the knees squeezed together when in the butterfly. it's a common breakdown and you see it in goalies of all levels.
So now you're a goalie expert? So, how long have you played goalie? Exactly what technique should he have used? Maybe you should approach Chuck about being the team goalie coach...
It's better to be quiet and be thought a fool then to open your mouth (or type on a forum) and remove all doubt.
i've played goalie for roughly the past 6 years since you ask. i'm not saying i'm an expert but i've been around the game long enough to know a break down when i see one. that goal happened while we were on the PK and as they say your goalie has to be your best penalty killer and nie wasn't on that ONE shot. i don't want to take away anything from what he did before that or after that. i like nie, i think he is an upgrade to our team, but that on moment in time is what it is....
oh...and as far as what technique should he have used? he needed to do a better job of squeezing the knees together. to nie's defense on that shot...i know from experience that when a shot is miss hit, or comes in at an odd velocity it can throw timing off. think of seeing 90+ mph shots and then suddenly seeing a random 50 mph shot, it's like watching a batter in a baseball game try to sloow down to hit a 65mph pitch after seeing a 95 mph fast ball....
Cool. As a goalie parent I get tired of folks who know nothing about the position who do nothing but criticize the goalies. My apologies since you do play the position.
I know there are two schools of thought being taught to goalies in situations like that: PK, bodies in front, lose sight of the puck.
* play percentages, take away the low part of the ice, close 5 hole
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* play percentages, take away the low part of the ice, get legs as wide as possible to take away the low areas near the posts.
It appeared to me that Nie was attemtping to do the 2nd.
Again, apologies for assuming you didn't know the poisition.... |
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