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hrc666
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 Posted - 04/19/2009 : 02:54:31 AM
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We played a much simpler game on the road,” coach Chuck Weber said. “We didn’t capitalize on our opportunities tonight.
“This was one of our worst performances of the year. I just told them to put this game behind them
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090418/SPT/304180039
I still think it was a quirky game. If we get one break early (no post) and we don't get the bs 5 on 3 called against us, then the complextion of the game would have changed completely. We were swarming the Wheeling offensive zone for the first half of the first period and almost all of the 2nd until the breakaway/crash-into-the-net goal.
I've seen many games (the Cyclones were 6-14 in the first 20 games I saw this year) where they weren't even close to being as offensively effective despite being shut out tonight. And the defense was eminently better than it was during the first 4 games of this season.
Weber is trying to frame it as a "worst game" to get the guys in the mindset that it was a fluke. He is wise to do so. But, it wasn't anywhere near the worst they've played this season. Not even in the top five that I've seen.
2003-04 was a flipping disaster. I considered seeking psychiatric treatment when I was still going to games in March of that year. No healthy person would have done that to himself:)
MacDonald was simply outstanding in the games he played in Wheeling. No if, ands, or buts about it. Taking him to task for the first two goals isn't fair. He had plenty of help on both of them. |
"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
--donnie hockey
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Woodrow
(The Next Level!)
119 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2009 : 04:49:10 AM
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Can we all at least agree that Wheeling is deserving of the playoffs now?
I still have a sinking feeling that the "Darling Game" is due to happen. He's proved me wrong all series and I've got my fingers crossed he can do it again. I can't imagine Wheeling's gonna put up six again on Monday, so the Nailers' fortune could rest on his shoulders. Either way, I'm proud of how he, and the rest of the team bounced back from a crushing loss only a night earlier.
I'm gonna try to find a way to make it to Game 7. Good luck to both squads. |
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JK_112880
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 08:47:32 AM
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| No use dwelling on April 18 anymore. April 20th is all that matters now. |
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tamg4393
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 10:26:58 AM
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| Aman brother! |
2008 Kelly cup champs, the best Cyclones team ever! |
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clones4ever
(Finally Got A Star!)
USA
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 11:18:17 AM
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Originally posted by elvis77
1. 1st goal matt "-2" macdonld lets his guy go and the wheeling player then goes and causes trouble in front of lacasse.
2. 2nd goal matt "-2" macdonald lets the wheeling forward push him all the way down to the bottom of the face off dot on a 2 on 2. by the time matt had put any pressure on him the pass had long been made.
3. wheelings PP is good..can't afford to give them a 5 on 3
4. matt "-2" macdonald spins around like a figure skater failing to touch the puck or a wheeling player leading to yet another wheeling goal.
5. did i mention that matt "-2" macdonald was on the ice for 4 of wheelings 6 goals. where is the ahl superstar everyone is talking about. even in wheeling when everyone was giving him BJ's for how great he played he still was responsible for leaving his line mate staring at several odd man rushes that were shut down by offsides calls. 2 were even on PPs. i'm not sure what is worse at this point macdonald or miller. don't get me wrong i'm not putting it all on matt, but for a guy who spent 50+ games in the ahl he's spending a lot of time backing up giving wheeling players pace, sure he hits people but it's usually after the fact. after returning from the ahl last year conrad was railing people into the half wall on 2 on 2 rushes.
6. what was up with o'hanely tonite....
7. here is my propblem with the officiating. 6 out of 9 penalties in the 1st were on the cyclones. in the 2nd 5 out of 5 were on wheeling. in the 3rd it was tit for tat. if that's how it really went it is the 1st game i've ever witnessed where each team was responsible for the majority of one period each and then alternated penalties in a period....rumor has it that joey earnst, head of echl officials, was seen leaving the refs locker room and heading down the hall to the cyclones locker room (he may or may not have been wearing knee pads).
7. top to bottom it looked like the guys were skating not to lose rather than skating to win...
8. 2 more things on the officiating. on the 6th goal; when a veteran linesman skates over to the ref and asks for an explanation on why it was a goal, it might mean that the referee is a bit clueless. also, the last time i checked, the home team was supposed to receive the advantage on faceoffs, meaning that the cyclones center puts his stick down 2nd, yet the linesmen were continually making the 'clones put their sticks down first. if anyone has any info that can clarify this last point, i'm all ears....
Uhhhh yea ur right elvis its my understanding as well that the visiting team is always suppose to put there stick down 1st on a faceoff. U are right! |
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clones4ever
(Finally Got A Star!)
USA
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 11:21:01 AM
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Originally posted by Woodrow
Can we all at least agree that Wheeling is deserving of the playoffs now?
I still have a sinking feeling that the "Darling Game" is due to happen. He's proved me wrong all series and I've got my fingers crossed he can do it again. I can't imagine Wheeling's gonna put up six again on Monday, so the Nailers' fortune could rest on his shoulders. Either way, I'm proud of how he, and the rest of the team bounced back from a crushing loss only a night earlier.
I'm gonna try to find a way to make it to Game 7. Good luck to both squads.
Yep they are deserving for sure!! |
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Buckeye011
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 11:49:41 AM
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I've been a fan of the "Cyclones" since 1993, and I cant remember a game that was as lop-sided as this one. Everytime you looked up (meaning you were looking down after a WHL goal) Sweeney's hand was raised to call another penalty on Cincy. It was pathetic!
We also cant survive on the 50% slapshots straight at Darlings chest...Not only are they going at him, but he has enough time to take a nap before the puck arrives at the goal. We need to do better at moving the puck around in front of the goal like we used to, confusing both the D and goalie, and slap the shots in. We kept the puck at the top way too much, passing back and fourth. WHL had all the time in the world to get set.
Monday will be a long day, waiting for game 7 to start, but I too stand by my team. This on again, off again of people saying their done, or its over, makes me sick.
This team is KNOWN for coming back in games this season (I believe we lead the league in come from behind wins, right) and ......simply, THIS IS WHEELING!!! We will prevail! |
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taoistlumberjak
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 12:12:19 PM
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Weber was smart to say what he did. I actually feel good about myself, considering I told my fiance that, if I were the coach, I would have told the team the same thing.
That said, I think we all need to take Chuck's advice. Game 1 of the one game series is Monday night. |
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 12:39:34 PM
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| OK I slept on my frustration... I feel better now... lets just get it done Monday and forget yesterday's sideshow ever happened |
KELLY CUP CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010
AMERICAN/EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010, 2014
DIVISION CHAMPIONS- 1996, 2008, 2009, 2013
2008 BRABHAM CUP CHAMPIONS
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PressureDrop
(Rookie)
USA
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 1:11:36 PM
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| The Cyclone forwards are making WHL look real good.The offense has been struggling and it has been the D and goaltending that have kept them in these games.In this series GF 2.5, during the season 3.6. That is six less goals in this series so far and WHL is not a defensive team.Van and Killer need to snipe a few Monday and the team and especially Wollhas to stop taking unneccessary penalties. |
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hrc666
(Loves To Post!)
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 2:19:35 PM
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Originally posted by Woodrow
Can we all at least agree that Wheeling is deserving of the playoffs now?
I still have a sinking feeling that the "Darling Game" is due to happen. He's proved me wrong all series and I've got my fingers crossed he can do it again. I can't imagine Wheeling's gonna put up six again on Monday, so the Nailers' fortune could rest on his shoulders. Either way, I'm proud of how he, and the rest of the team bounced back from a crushing loss only a night earlier.
I'm gonna try to find a way to make it to Game 7. Good luck to both squads.
It's almost poetic justice that this series is going the full 7. the Northern Division was a nip and tuck battle for the top 5 positions for the last month. Really, all 5 teams deserved a post season shot. It figures that the "play-in" round was eliminated this season.
Darling's gaa is 0.67 at USBA this post season. I don't even want to figure out his save percentage for this series at USBA. It's safe to say that it's at least 96%. I'm just hoping that the law of averages has its inevitable way with Mr. Darling's USBA post season performance.
Hope you can make it. Over 75% of all Wheeling fans have made it safely out of the arena. Damage to their cars has been minimal as well |
"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
--donnie hockey
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kmathews
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USA
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 3:18:04 PM
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Dear Friends,
I left the game last night completely at a loss. This game hurt SO much. To see Wheeling take the puck down the ice, litterally on their first possession, and score 00:40 in, I was shocked. I'm trying to sort out what exactly happened that the penalty box never seemed empty. Were our guys trying too hard, and mistakes snowballed, or was it a breakdown in concentration? We've been here before.
I can't get away from prior obligations to be there Monday night, but good luck to all, stand tall & keep your chins up.
HFH, I read the article in Cincy Magazine, that was awesome!
GO 'Clones ! |
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Slapshot
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 04/19/2009 : 9:42:26 PM
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| I saw a team that was playing like thay had a game monday and a team that knew they might not. The refs were horrible but they werent the ones shooting the puck into the net. I never once saw a cyclones d man drop to stop a puck. Wheelings defense blocked more shots than Loic and Nie combined. They wanted it more is all it comes down to. Bad passing bad skating bad shooting. How do you miss that many open nets in a game?! |
old time hockey bar the door, clear the track, ITS ALL OUT WAR! |
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Woodrow
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 04/20/2009 : 03:26:24 AM
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Originally posted by hrc666
Hope you can make it. Over 75% of all Wheeling fans have made it safely out of the arena. Damage to their cars has been minimal as well
I will be there. |
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frito
(Rookie)
USA
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Posted - 04/20/2009 : 10:12:56 AM
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First, you have to give credit where credit is due. Darling is a monster, plain and simple. I was commenting to my wife and kids in game 2 that he knows where the puck is going to be two seconds before the puck knows where it is going. A hot goalie can take you very deep and he has been on fire while in USBA. Let's hope we can extinguish his fire tonight.
Secondly, I don't think the guys played all that bad in all honesty. There were long stretches wehre I feel they outplayed Wheeling just to have a bad bounce or be stymied by Darling.
Thirdly (and just for the record, Wheeling would have won despite this) this was absolutely the worst officated game I have ever witnessed. A question was made earlier about the phantom iceing call. Plain and simple, THEY BLEW IT! That is why the face off was moved to center ice vs. back in the 'Clones end. Sadly, they didn't blow one icing, THEY BLEW TWO. The other one they blew, the linesman had indicated the puck had been tipped yet they blew the whistle for icing. You could see Weber going nuts on the bench indicating as such. Once again the face off was moved to center ice. Now, I don't like the face off location for blown icing. In USA hockey we deem the "last play" to be in the offensive zone of the team that was erronerously whislted for icing. The ECHL takes a standpoint of "not giving a teritorial advantage"; however, in reality they are giving teritorial advantage to the defending team as the puck would bave been in play in their zone. TWO BLOWN ICING CALLS IN ONE GAME - PATHETIC.
Now my issue with the goal when Nie was knocked into the net isn't so much that they allowed goal because that could have legitiamtely been a goal. Our palyer knocked Nie and the puck into the net and at the same time the net off the morings. What I take exception to is that Sweeney had already made up his mind that the play was dead and then changed his mind and called it a goal. How do I know this? You could clearly see that he was in the process of raising the whistle to his lips to blow the play dead. He then changed his mind and called it a goal. BS. Here's an example out of the referee classes. A referee watching the play loses sight of the puck. He makes the determination that the play is dead. It takes 1 -2 seconds to bring the hand up and actually blow the whistle. During that time the puck finds it way into the back of the net. Should it be a goal? the correct answer is no. The referee made the determination. At the time the determination is made, the play is dead. While unfortunate the puck found its way in the back of the net in the intervening two seconds, the play is dead when the ref decides in his mind it is dead. In Sweeny's case, you could see by his actions that he determined the play was dead. He changed his mind while in the process of blowing the whistle.
Like I said, it wouldn't have impacted the net result of the game, but this is the first time I have seen all three officials mucking it up so badly. I really hope we have different crew tonight and that the head of the officials is benching these guys for the rest of the playoffs. |
Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience
GO CYCLONES! North Division Champs two years running! |
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