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BP2011
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 Posted - 02/05/2010 : 4:46:54 PM
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| Some possible news because nothing can be confirmed as of yet but a radio station is reporting that David Desharnais is being recalled to Montreal along with a few other Dogs, CKAC radio then you have to translate it because I dont speek french |
08, 10 Kelly Cup Champions
08, 10, 14 American Conference Champions
08, 09, 13 North Division Champions
08 Brabham Cup Champions |
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BP2011
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
531 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2010 : 4:48:02 PM
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| spell check speak french, but more news probably after 5 |
08, 10 Kelly Cup Champions
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Donnie Hockey
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USA
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Posted - 02/05/2010 : 5:00:20 PM
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| Montreal has a lot of injuries again, including their leading scorer. |
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BP2011
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 02/05/2010 : 5:47:56 PM
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Habs call up three players from the BulldogsFriday, 05.02.2010 / 5:00 PM / moves Montreal CanadiensPRESS RELEASE
MONTREAL The Montreal Canadiens announced today that forwards Ryan White, David Desharnais and Brock Trotter have been called up from the AHL Hamilton Bulldogs.
White, 21, played 14 games with the Canadiens this season including his first NHL game on November 5 against the Bruins in Boston. The 600, 193 lbs forward registered two points (0-2-2), recorded 42 hits and blocked 13 shots, while playing an average of 11 minutes and 35 seconds.
White recorded 20 points (12-8-20) in 37 games with the Bulldogs this season. He added 69 shots on goal and 95 penalty minutes, while maintaining a +8 plus/minus differential. A native of Brandon, MB, White was the Canadiens fourth pick (third round, 66th overall) in the 2006 NHL Entry Draft.
Desharnais, 23, played one game with the Canadiens this season, his first in the NHL, against the Penguins in Pittsburgh on November 25. The 507, 177 lbs forward was held pointless, recorded one hit and played seven minutes and 55 seconds.
Desharnais is second on the Bulldogs with 48 points (16-32-48) in 37 games. He added 91 shots on goal and 24 penalty minutes, while maintaining a +10 plus/minus diffenrential. He missed the first 13 games of the season with a foot injury. A native of Quebec City, Desharnais signed with the Canadiens as a free agent on November 5, 2008.
Trotter, 22, is the Bulldogs leading scorer with 53 points (25-28-53) in 49 games this season. The 510, 180 lbs forward displays a +21 plus/minus differential, with 106 shots on goal and 36 penalty minutes. A native of Brandon, MB, Trotter signed with the Canadiens as a free agent on July 2, 2008.
Now its official!!! Good Luck DD |
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 02/05/2010 : 7:48:14 PM
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| Good for Desharnais. Call-ups should be on an earned basis rather than draft/contract status, and his play has warranted an opportunity to show what he can do at the next level. I still maintain he's not big and strong enough, and his skating is an issue, but then again people said Joe Montana didn't have the arm strength to succeed in the NFL when he was at Notre Dame. I hope he proves me wrong. |
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Hockey Traveller
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 02/05/2010 : 10:46:23 PM
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Well here's another huge opportunity for him. How long will it last this time? This could be a big turning point in his career. A good showing this time around could open the door for him to prove me wrong. A disappointing showing might spell the end of his NHL career, or at the least the end of his Montreal Canadiens career.
Coincidentally, he will face the Penguins again in his first game back. This time, Desharnais may get to face off against his idol, two time Stanley Cup Champion Chris Kunitz, who could return to the lineup for the first time since Jan. 3rd from an abdominal injury. Kunitz missed Desharnais' debut game November 25, also due to injury. |
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hrc666
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 12:10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Hockey Traveller
A good showing this time around could open the door for him to prove me wrong.
I'm sure that "proving you wrong" is DD's primary motivation at this point
You've already been proven wrong. Check out some of your posts from, say, 24 hours ago.
I'm just happy for the kid. I love watching underdogs make it. And an undrafted 5'5" 165 lbs. player is definitely an underdog. It's also cool seeing someone who has been so entertaining to watch (much more so than any other Cincinnati minor league hockey player whom I've ever watched) get his chance.
I hope he is given an opportuntiy to adjust and perform. At least 5 games on this call up.
I'm done communicating with the proven wrong naysayers on this. You will get the last word. Even if he gets sent down Sat. evening or stays up forever. I will make posts regarding him-just not as a response to your collective drivel.
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"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 09:59:59 AM
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Originally posted by hrc666
I'm just happy for the kid. I love watching underdogs make it.
To stick in the NHL, Desharnais would have to play the way Robbie Ftorek did, with a chip on his shoulder 24/7. Ftorek had great skills but was a tenacious forechecker, a terrific penalty killer, blocked shots, and got under the skin of the opposition. Ftorek was a 100-point scorer in the WHA, but the reason he was able to play for several years in the NHL after the WHA ended was because of the things he did when he didn't have the puck. Sean Avery could have been a 30-goal, 85-point guy in the AHL, but he figured out what kind of player he had to be to play in the NHL.
BTW ... when Kunitz was called up from the AHL in 2003-04, his recall was performance related. He went up and another player that had spent the entire 2002-03 season in Anaheim was sent down.
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elvis77
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 10:59:31 AM
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I'll be one of the first to say that David has a lot to grow in his game before he will have the chance to be a regular and he has a lot going against him; just the stigma of being undrafted. But keep in mind, many of the scouts that recommended passing on him said he'd never duplicate his Junior numbers in a professional league and he did. He has also gone on to almost average a point per game in the AHL. The kid works and plays hard on both ends of the ice. I've used the Martin St. Louis comparison before and it has some validity. Martin didn't really become an NHL regular until he got got to Tampa and that was around age 26. I'm not saying David is the next Martin St. Louis but the potential is there. The portions of David's game that need to get better can be coached and trained; he can get stronger and faster. If David keeps working, other teams will give him looks, maybe not for their NHL roster but as an NHL/AHL depth guy, but for a talented hard working player all it takes is a few games due to a call up to prove his worth.
He's a likable kid as well. I for one am pulling for him and will be supporting him and the Cyclones tonight in Columbus. |
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 11:22:40 AM
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Martin St. Louis is a great skater; Desharnais is not. St. Louis can blow by a defenseman coming down the wing because his sppeed; Desharnais cannot. Because of his speed, St. Louis forces the defense to back up rather than try and stand him up which allows him to carry the puck into the offensive zone whereas a player with Desharnais speed either dumps the puck in, or gets checked off the puck in the NHL.
Desharnais can get stronger on his skates, he might get a step quicker in getting to a loose puck, but speed isn't something that can be taught.
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hrc666
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 2:14:12 PM
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Desharnais' vision of the ice and extraordinary passing abilities will be his ticket in the NHL. He doesn't have breakaway speed and never will have that quality. There are many successful NHLers who don't skate like the wind; while desirable it certainly isn't essential.
Desharnais always seems to impress people with his ability to hold his own in battles along the boards. Because of his size it is perfectly understandable for people to expect him to be easy prey along the boards; but he hasn't been. Perhaps that will be the same in the NHL. He'll never be a dominant player down low in the NHL, but being dominant isn't required; being serviceable is.
He's gotten great write ups about his NHL pre-season play during the past two camps. That's not the regular season, but it's highly competitive play among the borderline NHLers often times.
One of my favorite all-time minor league hockey players was a guy named Ron Handy who played for the CHL Indianapolis Checkers, IHL Indianapolis Ice and the Fort Wayne Komets back when they were AAA (old IHL) in the 80's and 90's. He played 14 career games in the NHL and couldn't hack it. He didn't execute has passes quickly enough-he was one of those players who needed the extra fraction of a second which he often was accorded at the AAA level. This is the Desharnais Challenge, if you will. Will his vision of the ice and his extraordinary passing abilities be tranferable to the higher level at the required speed? I can't answer that question and no one can until he is given ample opportunity to show whether he can or can't. His numbers in the AHL would seem to dictate that he will be given ample opportunity at some point. Perhaps that is now; perhaps it will come later. Given that he is only 23 years old, his window of opportunity in the NHL doesn't close with his current call up.
In any case the fact is that David Desharnais is an NHL player with the Montreal Canadiens. And that is an outstanding accomplishment and I hope he enjoys however much time he has playing against the world's best. He certainly has come a long way from suiting up against the likes of Tom Sawatske and Brad Bonnello at the Nutter Center in front of 600 (announced at 2500) fans.
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"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
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justmom
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 2:36:14 PM
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 2:58:01 PM
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Originally posted by hrc666
Desharnais' vision of the ice and extraordinary passing abilities will be his ticket in the NHL. He doesn't have breakaway speed and never will have that quality. There are many successful NHLers who don't skate like the wind; while desirable it certainly isn't essential.
Name one player with good vision and extraordinary passing ability that was under 5-foot-10 and wasn't a good skater that played more than a handful of games in the National Hockey League.
... I'm waiting.
Still waiting ...
The players that don't have breakaway speed are all bigger, faster, stronger than Desharnais. That's just a fact. Montreal doesn't consider him a prospect, and neither will any other organization. Again, that's just a fact.
Keep in mind the AHL isn't as good as it was three, four, five years ago because there's a lot less veteran players in the league, the guys that had 300, 400, 500 games of NHL experience. The first line on most ECHL teams are now as good (or better) than the third line on most AHL teams. Desharnais isn't facing the same level of competition in the AHL on a nightly basis as players like Chris Kunitz did. At the same time, because of the salary cap, the fourth lines and sixth and seventh defensemen aren't as good in the NHL as they before the lockout. |
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hrc666
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 2:59:19 PM
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I'm listening to my first Montreal Canadiens game ever. The announcers are like Hamel on quaaludes. Very understated.
The color guy called the Desharnais/Trotter/White line play as positive at the end of period 1. He noted that they played a good portion of their ice time in the offensive zone.
Desharnais received 3:56 of playing time in the first period. His stats are linked here (they seem to be automatically updating).
http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20092010/ES020856.HTM |
"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 3:06:24 PM
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| With Mike Cammellari and Andre Kostitsyn out of the lineup, Desharnais should get some power play time. |
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hrc666
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 3:20:35 PM
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The fairly critical (so it seems to me) color man just called a Desharnais saucer pass "lovely".
A couple of DD's shots have been blocked. I'm going to guess that he's going to need some adjustment time given his very strong tendency to pass first and shoot second. It'll be interesting to see how the "blocked shot" stat goes for him as time goes on.
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"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
--donnie hockey
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