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jevers
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Posted - 02/27/2010 :  10:04:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit jevers's Homepage
JOHNSTOWN, Pennsylvania - The Johnstown Chiefs ended their seven game losing streak on Saturday night at the expense of the Cincinnati Cyclones in a 6-2 triumph. Six different Chiefs scored in the victory. The Cyclones finish February with a 9-2-2 recordbut continue to lead the North Division of the American Conference.

The Cyclones opened the scoring with 37 seconds left in the first period. Defenseman Brett Motherwell fired a shot from the blueline that Johnstown goaltender John Murray was able to play, but the puck deflected off the end of his glove up into the air over his right shoulder and into the net. Dustin Sproat collected the lone assist on the power play goal, which was just the second tally scored by a Cyclones player in the final minute of a period this season. The Chiefs outshot the Cyclones, 14-10.

Johnstown scored three second period goals and held a 3-2 lead entering the third. The game was tied at one each when Jordan Morrison took a feed from behind the Cincinnati net from Sean Berkstresser at 6:28 for his ninth score of the campaign. The Chiefs grabbed their first lead of the night at 11:25 when Connor Shields scored his 24th in the slot from Troy Schwab. The Cyclones evened the scores at two each when Jimmy Kilpatrick charged up the left wing side and threw a pass to the right wing side that Mark Van Guilder was able to one-time past Murray for his fourth goal of the year. Sproat had the second assist. Johnstown took the lead a second time at 17:33 when Matthew Kang converted a two-on-one break into the Cincinnati end for his fifth goal from David Schulz and former Cyclone Bryan Marshall.

Johnstown extended the lead to 4-2 when Jim McKenzie banged home his 13th goal on a delayed penalty at 1:35. Berkstresser had the assist on the score. Chanse Fitzpatrick picked up his 24th goal at 11:57 to make the deficit three as Shields had the assist on the score. An empty net goal from Marshall, his 18th, at 18:58 closed the scoring. The Chiefs won the shots battle in the period, 15-14, and in the game, 38-34.

John Murray took the victory for Johnstown, just his fifth of the season by stopping 32 shots. Jeremy Smith absorbed the defeat, dropping to 18-12-2 on the year. He stopped 32 shots also. Johnstown was zero for six on the power play, while the Cyclones were zero for four.

Cincinnati is 36-19-3, while Johnstown is 15-33-8. The game kicked off a six game road trip for the North Division leaders, as the club begins its four game southern swing on Wednesday night (March 3) at Charlotte.

Cincinnati leads the North Division with 75 points. Kalamazoo is second with 67, while Toledo is third at 62 and Wheeling rounds out the division with 59 points. The Cyclones have led the North Division for 53 days this season and for 314 days over the past three-plus seasons. Cincinnati's 'magic number' to clinching a playoff berth is now at 16.

Tickets for the 2009-10 Cincinnati Cyclones season are now on sale. The Cyclones Sales Department can be reached at 513-421-PUCK, extension 3. Selected Friday night games are carried on 1530-AM Homer, while all 72 regular season games can be heard on the club's website at: www.cycloneshockey.com. The next game on ESPN 1530 will come next Friday (March 5), when the Cyclones travel to the defending Kelly Cup champion South Carolina Stingrays at 7pm.


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jung46n2
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Posted - 02/27/2010 :  10:52:50 PM  Show Profile
Anyone else see this coming after that game on Friday?

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hrc666
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Posted - 02/28/2010 :  6:51:19 PM  Show Profile
Another very productive February for the Cyclones at 9-2-2. It didn't end well, but every team hits the doldrums during the course of a season.

The attendance story just keeps getting brighter. Up 26% for the year. With the 20% price increase, ticket revenues are probably up nearly 50%. I doubt any team in all of pro hockey can match that.

The Cyclones are averaging 6,128 in their 7 weekend dates post Jan. 1. Given that the Cyclones report honest figures, it's apparent that hockey has reestablished its viability in Cincinnati. It's been a long and uphill battle, but the mission has been accomplished.

Congratulations to the entire Cyclone management team for their exceptional accomplishment in the most difficult of economic times.

An interesting side note is that the Cylcone's weekend attendance since Jan. 1 is 42,896 (7 dates). A few Daytonians who used to refer to US "Empty Arena" might take note that the Gems have drawn 37,613 to all 28 of their home games this season-over 6,000 less than the Clones have to just 7 of their 31 home dates.


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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 02/28/2010 :  7:26:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Donnie Hockey's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by hrc666

With the 20% price increase, ticket revenues are probably up nearly 50%.


Going from $10 to $12 is a 16.7 percent price increase and while a 26 percent increase sounds good to toss out there, you have to look at what they're going up against over last year, which isn't much.
And the state of the economy isn't much of a factor when you're talking about a $12 ticket. People still want to have fun, they still want to do things with their family and friends, and at $12, that makes the Cyclones a very appealing entertainment option for those that might be struggling to make ends meet.

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hrc666
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Posted - 02/28/2010 :  7:30:39 PM  Show Profile
Going from $10 to $12 is a 20% increase. 2 divided by 10 is .2. .2 equates to 20%.


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--donnie hockey

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BP2011
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Posted - 02/28/2010 :  7:36:24 PM  Show Profile
As much as I knew he would get recalled he will probably ride the bench and not be very productive, he should stay because here he shows more here then in Milwaukee because he plays

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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 02/28/2010 :  7:55:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Donnie Hockey's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by hrc666

Going from $10 to $12 is a 20% increase. 2 divided by 10 is .2. .2 equates to 20%.



The way you figure a percentage increase is you take the new number (12) and subtract the previous number (10), which gives you a third number (2). You then take the third number (2) and divide it by the new number (12), which then gives you your percentage increase (16.7).

If tickets were $12.50, that would represent a 20 percent increase over last year.

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Woodrow
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Posted - 02/28/2010 :  8:33:58 PM  Show Profile
When speaking of a rise or fall in a quantity, the usual interpretation is that this is relative to the initial value of that quantity.

$2 is 20% of the original price of $10, so the increase would be recognized as 20%.

If something cost $10 and is now $20, that's a 100% increase, not 50%.

The math is probably meaningless, but hrc's right on this one.
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 02/28/2010 :  8:45:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit Donnie Hockey's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Woodrow

When speaking of a rise or fall in a quantity, the usual interpretation is that this is relative to the initial value of that quantity.

$2 is 20% of the original price of $10, so the increase would be recognized as 20%.

If something cost $10 and is now $20, that's a 100% increase, not 50%.

The math is probably meaningless, but hrc's right on this one.



But anyone that buys a ticket to a Cyclones game isn't paying 20 percent more. They're paying 16.7 percent more which makes hrc wrong on this one.

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justmom
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Posted - 02/28/2010 :  8:50:54 PM  Show Profile
Okay as a college math teacher I am going to put in my opinion. hrc is right. The math is done new-old divided by old. so 12-10 = 2 divided by 10. SO yes boys it is a 20% increase.

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Woodrow
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Posted - 02/28/2010 :  8:59:06 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Donnie Hockey


But anyone that buys a ticket to a Cyclones game isn't paying 20 percent more. They're paying 16.7 percent more which makes hrc wrong on this one.



Right, they are paying 16.7% more, but the increase is 20%. The Cyclones are only making 16.7% more, so you're right as far as that goes. Math's dumb like that.

Anyway, I'm sure the Cyclones just had an off night in Johnstown. It will long be forgotten when they're a top seed in the playoffs.
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Catch22
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Posted - 02/28/2010 :  10:30:47 PM  Show Profile
Are you guys really going to argue over the math?
Really?

And Donnie Hockey... I don't know you, will probably never meet you, and frankly don't care one way or another. But I wanted to point out that you manage to go out of your way to put a negative spin on EVERYTHING positive about the Cyclones posted on this board.

It really is old and annoying, and frankly makes you come across like a bitter, first class asshole.

Just sharing some honest feedback. Take it or leave it.

Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama.
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 02/28/2010 :  11:03:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit Donnie Hockey's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Catch22
And Donnie Hockey... I don't know you, will probably never meet you, and frankly don't care one way or another. But I wanted to point out that you manage to go out of your way to put a negative spin on EVERYTHING positive about the Cyclones posted on this board.

It really is old and annoying, and frankly makes you come across like a bitter, first class asshole.

Just sharing some honest feedback. Take it or leave it.




Since I don't have aspirations to one day run for president of the Cyclones Fan Club, I'll leave it.

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hrc666
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  02:09:21 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Woodrow

quote:
Originally posted by Donnie Hockey


But anyone that buys a ticket to a Cyclones game isn't paying 20 percent more. They're paying 16.7 percent more which makes hrc wrong on this one.



Right, they are paying 16.7% more, but the increase is 20%. The Cyclones are only making 16.7% more, so you're right as far as that goes.



They are paying 20% more.

If I could buy 10 tickets last season for $100, but this year those same 10 tickets cost me $120, then I would be paying $20 more for the same tickets. 120% of $100 is $120. The Cyclones would be making 20% more than they did for the same 10 tickets that they sold last season. The former amount I paid ($100) would be 83.3% as much as I pay now ($120) and would represent a decrease of 16.7% from the new amount, but the increase in the price paid ($120 vs. $100) would be 20% as $20 is 20% of $100 (the old price).

If the Cyclones were to increase tickets to $14 from $12 (which I imagine that they will for the playoffs), then the increase would be 16.7% as 2/12=.167.

In terms of revenue increase for the team, one uses the increase in number of tickets sold (1.26) and multiplies that by the increase (1.2) to determine the revenue increase (1.26*1.2)=1.512 or a revenue increase of 51.2%.

Since the team doesn't realize $12 per ticket sold and realized less than $10 per ticket sold last year (discounts on season tickets, fund raisers, throwback night, education day, etc.), the actual increase in ticket revenue will be greater than the 51.2% as the base number ($10) was probably closer to $9. I'd estimate the real rev. increase number is closer to 55%.

In any case, it's a job well done by the team. The Cyclones face the same challenges as all other minor league hockey teams and they have managed to grow their revenues very significantly where most teams are treading water.

"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey

"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
--donnie hockey



Edited by - hrc666 on 03/01/2010 02:28:58 AM
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Donnie new name is KIA ( Know It All)


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