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jevers
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 Posted - 12/04/2010 : 11:26:36 PM
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CINCINNATI, Ohio - Florida rookie Alex Hutchings registered a hat trick and finished with four points to help lift the Florida Everblades (15-9-0-0) to a 5-3 victory over the Cincinnati Cyclones (8-8-5-1) on Saturday night at U.S. Bank Arena.
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The opening period was nothing short of a shooting gallery, as a combined seven goals were scored between the two clubs. Cincinnati drew first blood at 1:58 when Christiaan Minella wristed home a shot through the legs of Jaroslav Janus (W, 28 saves, 7-4-0-0) for a 1-0 Cincinnati lead. Florida answered back, though, at the 5:42 mark when Alex Hutchings netted his fifth of the season past Cyclones goalie Marc Cheverie (L, 23 saves, 7-4-2-1) to tie things up at one. Hutchings struck again at 11:24 as he buried a power play goal to give the Everblades a 2-1 advantage. Luckily, Cincinnati was able to pull even at 11:47 when Brett Robinson slid home a loose puck for his sixth goal of the season, giving the game a fresh start. Unfortunately, things went downhill from there as Florida responded with three more goals in the opening frame; Hutchings completed a hat trick at 14:31, followed by Matt Beca and Francis Lemieux goals at 15:06 and 17:37 respectively to give the Everblades a commanding 5-2 lead after 20 minutes.
As busy of a period as it was in the first, the final two frames of regulation were relatively quiet. Mathieu Aubin wristed a puck past Janus for his sixth goal of the year, pulling the Cyclones within two at 5-3. But the Everblades sat back and suffocated Cincinnati's offensive chances to hold the lead and pick up their sixth win in a row.
The Cyclones Radio Network Three Stars of the Game are as follows:
1. Alex Hutchings (4 points, 3 goals for Florida)
2. Mitch Fadden (3 assists for Florida)
3. Francis Lemieux (1 goal, 2 assists for Florida)
The 'Clones will wrap up their "three-in-three" weekend tomorrow afternoon on the road, as they travel to face the Toledo Walleye at the Huntington Center at 4:00pm. Hear all the action on CyclonesHockey.com beginning at 3:45pm.
The defending Kelly Cup Champions return U.S. Bank Arena this Tuesday, December 7 to face the Bakersfield Condors at 7:30pm. It's another Big Beer Tuesday with $2 24-ounce Molson and Labatt Blue flowing all night long. Discounted ticket packages and single game tickets for the 2010-2011 season are available now. For more information, call 513.421.PUCK (7825) or visit CyclonesHockey.com.
http://www.cycloneshockey.com/news/108/everblades-drop-cyclones-5-3/
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 11:48:32 PM
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| Well i'm going to say it because everyone is thinking it, nice to see that the ECHL has raised it's bar on officiating. Should be pretty easy on the score sheet tonight because I believe we had only 1 powerplay the whole game......I can say i've never seen that ever before. Bravo ECHL, just when I believe i've seen the worst officiated game you step up to prove me wrong. Really? tackling the other teams goaltender. Coach, throw away that old playbook and lets give a new meaning to "go to the net" Pathetic |
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SCUBA
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 11:52:32 PM
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| ECHL has the scoring sheet with the Clones going 0/2 on the powerplay and Florida 1/1...there is no way that can be right. |
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dbc
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 12:29:47 AM
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Just plain ugly and still with only one regulation win at home all year. We got beat soundly in all aspects. We seemed to spend all the time in our offensive zone outside the dots against the boards, and they seemed to spend all of their time between the dots in the slot.
Yes we only had one power play but Florida only had one last night. I think you looked at last nights stat sheet Scuba. We didn't even get a shot on goal during the 2 minutes anyhow so not sure what difference it would have made as YTD we are just over 10% in power play efficiency while our penalty killing is about 70% now. At home we have the worst penalty kill record in the league and the 2nd worst power play record. We were 0/3 for the weekend and Florida was 4/8 on power plays and we lost both games by a combined four goals. Special teams win games and championships.
Florida went 5-0 on their trip north against four teams and we have six games left against them (also six against SC, and four against Greenville) yet strangely two games left against Reading,and 0 against Elmira and Trenton. Lets hope we can dominate against our weak division. |
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somebeach
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 01:35:34 AM
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| I can't even remember a game where we left so early. Just couldn't stand the officiating. Went to SportsPlus for U.C. versus N.K.U. Turned out to be a good game. Goalie fight in the 2nd period. U.C. won 8-2 |
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 02:06:19 AM
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| dbc, I get what your saying but with our penalty kill being as bad as it is, poor officiating has got to be a factor in some of the losses. I just cannot find any justification not to make a goaltender interference call on the Everblades 3 or 4th goal. I get what you are saying though, I don't typically stoop to the official blame game stuff, but sheeesh. |
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tjpavlik
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 09:26:30 AM
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Okay, the officiating sucks. The officials, just like the players move up if they're good and leave the game if they're not. That being said, if you take away the goaltender takedown goal for Florida you have to take down Robinson's high stick goal. We still lose.
I am much more concerned with our defensive scheme or lack of one. Our d men get beat regularly because they're pinching up in the offensive zone. The puck pops back out and either you have an forward covering or a developing odd man rush or both. I can play that way on Wii hockey but it doesn't cut it in the real world.
The talent is there. O' Hanley, Roeder and even Olson are decent defenseman but playing the current system just doesn't work. I spotted Kevin Roeder leading the rush three times last night. Really?!? We need to play to our strengths. Let the d men play defense.
The PK leaves me speechless. When three goals are scored on roughly the same type set up there is a problem. Adjustments? Let them score five in the first and that i'll take the fight right out of em!
Chevrie has to be in a daze. He is a very capable goaltender. He just needs a defense in front of him. Patrick Roy could have been in goal last night and we still would have given up at least three.
There is no doubt Florida is a good team. Hell, they always are but we rolled over and died last night. And the night before.
Sorry to rant but wow. We need to get better. Watch a replay from last year, or any of the Weber/Stork years. Defense first, the goals will come. We are playing the opposite, letting the opposition score and we'll play come back.
Maybe Dwayne Zinger would have been a better choice for an assistant. |
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 10:48:46 AM
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Okay here's another take on this team. It's great to have so many familiar
faces on the roster, but are we caught with "Weber" players trying to play
"Skalde" hockey ? I am constantly seeing players out of position and the
same old too much play behind the net. Maybe if Dean Stork could have been
coach, these players would most likely be playing still together. Now it
seems we have two game plans going on at the same time and the holes it
creates. Weber is gone and Skalde is here. Lets give "Skalde Hockey" the
try it deserves or find somewhere else to play.
On last night, one thing was wrong on the stars of the game. Number one
star for Florida was the three blind mice in black and white . |
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tjpavlik
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 11:51:46 AM
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Bags makes a great point. The majority of players we have are left overs from the Weber years and may or may not have been Coach Skalde's choices.
Unfortunately the situation is that the players you get are what you get (or are assigned). The Coaches have to develop a system that works for the players you have. If you have a Scott Niedermayer you can let him float down and roam in the offensive zone because with his skating ability and his defensive partners' ability there is no real risk. When you have Kevin Roeder and Brian O' Hanley (or any of our defensemen, not picking on anyone here) you leave them back (at least not leading the rush) because they aren't going to recover as quickly.
The "under the goal line" play of 09-10 came about because we didn't have the high speed/skill guys of 07-08. The coaches adapted to the talent we had. While 09-10 wasn't as thrilling to watch it was just as effective.
My point is that I'm not going to blame the players. If they had the skill to lead the rush, shoot/pass and recover to play the rush going the other way how long would they stay here? The coaches have to adjust, even when we're down a goal or three. Giving up another when your down just seals your fate. |
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dbc
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 11:57:46 AM
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Lots of good points made by all
. My belief is that officiating evens out and you adapt. Have never walked out of any hockey game anywhere where the fans of the team that won complained about the refs or the team that lost didn't complain about calls that were made or not made. Having said that. the overall quality seems to be down this year. Lots of new referees from last year which is a result of the AHL going to the two referee NHL system and guys moving up. Seems that all the ECHL refs are rookies this year.
Bottom line is we are not a very good team--not a bad team--but not a very good one. Perhaps the reason we have the d-men leading so many rushes and get caught is we don't have the big offensive horses up front. Lots of guys working hard and grinding but no real snipers or natural scorers. Can anyone tell me which is our #1 line? We have three # 2 or even # 3 lines. Our offense not only starts with d-men leading the rushes but is based on shots from the point with tips or rebounds.
When we are in the defensive zone however, it seems that half the goals scored are from cross ice passes to an uncovered forward standing at or near the far post. Stopping that is defense 101
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 12/07/2010 : 10:18:23 AM
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Originally posted by SCUBA
poor officiating has got to be a factor in some of the losses. I don't typically stoop to the official blame game stuff, but sheeesh.
The officiating is the same for both teams. As a fan, you always think your team is getting the short end of the stick from the officials. But when you watch a game with no vested interest in either team, you never seem to notice the officials. |
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SCUBA
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Posted - 12/08/2010 : 4:28:59 PM
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The officiating in this league is BAD, and if we are to believe this tiered systemm meaning the officials at this level are looking to move up then it must be VERY BAD for leagues considered to be beneath the ECHL.
As for the short end of the stick, I would completly disagree, there have been many games where it seems like all the calls went our way and I just as disgusted by that. The Everblades Finally took their first shorthanded stint in the weaning minutes of the third period. There is NO ECHL team that plays that clean. It might even itself over the course of a season but the calls were largely one-sided. Now do I think there is a conspiracy involving the officials and the Clones? No but I think an official can remember players who for what ever reason got his attention and might go back to a player over and over for penalties. And that seems like it may be a reason why the NHL went the two'fer route. |
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 12/08/2010 : 5:48:11 PM
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@Scuba - the NHL went with two officials because the game had become too fast for one referee to keep up with the play.
The right word for the officiating in the ECHL is inconsistent, just like the players. Like the majority of the players in the ECHL, the officials are young, inexperienced and often times found out of position. They're going to make mistakes, but not nearly as many as the players will each night. And if you were to watch the video after a game, you'd find most of the calls you're up in arms about were the right call. |
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