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Donnie Hockey
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 Posted - 02/16/2010 : 6:44:09 PM
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| Montreal ranks first in 4-on-4 goals in the NHL with 10 and first in 5-on-4 goal differential, with an incredible 8.88 goals per 60 minutes. But at even-strength the Canadiens' small forwards don't have the same space to maneuver, and the team ranks dead last with 1.76 goals per 60 minutes of even-strength time. This huge problem is why the Canadiens are fighting for their playoff lives, and why former Cyclones great David Desharnais will not be called back up after the Olympics. |
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 08:35:20 AM
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| Donnie--this is a perfect example of why your posts often drive me crazy. Most people use these boards to express their opinions but your opinions come across as facts given by the professor trying to educate us common folks. When someone questions you, you respond in the same way or point to your hockey "pedigree" as to why we should agree with whatever you have decided is the fact. You might find a more receptive audience if you would express your thoughts as opinions and not facts that you have so graciously decided to share with us. |
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dtwells
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 3:23:24 PM
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| So when he does get called back up, be it right after the break or anytime during the rest of the season, will you finally shut up about how DD cant/wont ever make it in the NHL? Maybe all the small forwards drawing penalties from the bigger people is why they score all those goals in the first place. |
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Gordon Bombay
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 02/17/2010 : 11:06:05 PM
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| I don't think you guys understand. Obviously Donnie doesn't care what your personal opinions are of him. If you disagree with his take on Desharnais or anything else, why not just clearly explain your opinion and why you disagree in a rational way, rather than a personal insult fest. |
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cyclonehole
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 12:01:15 AM
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| ^ lol |
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dtwells
(The Next Level!)
270 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2010 : 10:36:00 AM
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| Because he obviously doesnt listen to reason/logic. The fact that DD played in both games after they aquired the new center and sent down Maxwell clearly shows the organization thinks highly of him, and its nearly a lock he will be back up with the big club, unless the Habs deal Halak for a premier forward. |
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 1:43:24 PM
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Originally posted by Gordon Bombay
I don't think you guys understand. Obviously Donnie doesn't care what your personal opinions are of him. If you disagree with his take on Desharnais or anything else, why not just clearly explain your opinion and why you disagree in a rational way, rather than a personal insult fest.
Here is my problem, I get that it is DH's opinion, but it's an opinion that at times comes across as "IN STONE". Sometimes DH comes across as, "the Hockey GOD has spoken, and it is fact"
Sports history is littered with nearly unbelieveable stories of folks that have overcome the odds. We are close to the eve of the "miracle" anniversary...There was no one predicting that. Since then we had high school teachers make it to pro baseball, I believe I remember a story that was recently documented about a guy who WALKED on to the Eagles in the 70's. No one has a clue how this one plays out. |
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Donnie Hockey
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USA
1514 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2010 : 7:05:51 PM
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Originally posted by dtwells
The fact that DD played in both games after they aquired the new center and sent down Maxwell clearly shows the organization thinks highly of him, and its nearly a lock he will be back up with the big club, unless the Habs deal Halak for a premier forward.
Montreal might call him up after the Olympics if they need a stick boy. He was given six games to show what he could do and it wasn't much. |
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elvis77
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 8:29:58 PM
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Ryan Getzlaf didn't do much in his first six game either, 0 goals and 1 assist (which came against the Columbus Blue Jackets so take it for what it's worth) and he averaged just under 10 minutes of ice time per game. Ryan turned out to be quite a player. Most players don't have huge impacts in their first several games in the NHL.
Donnie is entitled to his opinion but I agree with most in that his presentation is what stirs up most of the controversy. He presents it as if he is all knowing and what he says is fact rather than opinion. |
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Hockey Traveller
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 9:53:09 PM
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That's just the way he is. He is like that with those of us who are his friends too. It's no big deal...just his personality. Sometimes when he is wrong, I'll call him out on it just to mess with him.
He is actually one of the few people like that that I don't mind. I usually agree with many of you, that when someone comes across as a know-it-all, I try to prove them wrong, and enjoy it when they are.
But Don does know a lot about hockey, and he does have the contacts he claims to have. You can't work 18 years in media relations at the highest level of minor league hockey and NOT accumulate friends and acquaintances on the inside.
That doesn't mean that his OPINIONS are always right, but many times, they are formed by facts that he has gotten from his contacts in the game. And when the opinions are from his own personal observations, they are from someone who saw 75-95 games a year for 18 years, and sat with coaches, players, GMs, scouts, etc. on buses, in locker rooms, arenas, bars, restaurants, etc. throughout the US and Canada. |
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Donnie Hockey
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USA
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Posted - 02/18/2010 : 10:20:05 PM
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True, HT, my opinions aren't always right, but you can't find one person that is involved in scouting or player personnel in any of the four major sports that can claim a perfect record in their evaluation of players.
Ryan Getzlaf was a first-round pick and everyone expected him to become a great player in the National Hockey League, and he is. Nobody expected Deharnais to become a National Hockey League player, and three years into his pro career, he's not. The only reason he was called up was due to multiple injuries. I know, I know, Brett Favre and Tom Brady got their breaks because of injuries, but both of them were expected to become the starting quarterbacks for their teams. The timeline for them was moved up because of injuries.
There's a reason why 30 National Hockey League teams passed on the opportunity to draft Desharnais, why 30 National Hockey League teams passed on the opportunity to sign him as an undrafted free agent after he finished his career in the QMJHL, and why 30 National Hockey League teams passed on the opportunity to sign him as an unrestricted free agent after he led the ECHL in scoring his first professional season. If you look at the undrafted players that made it, such as former Cincinnati Mighty Ducks Chris Kunitz, Dustin Penner and Andy McDonald, there were bidding wars to sign them when they finished their college careers. They each received the maximum an NHL team could offer for their services. No NHL team had an interest in signing Desharnais, and there's not an NHL organization that regrets they didn't when they had the chance. He's not a legitimate NHL prospect and has a long way to go before he can even be considered as good a player as career minor leaguer Don Biggs was. |
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dtwells
(The Next Level!)
270 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2010 : 08:43:30 AM
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Tom Brady was expected to be a starting quarterback in the NFL? Because he was so good in college only starting 1 year and was picked in the 6th round. Nobody was expecting Brady to be a starter, 6th rounders are drafted simply for backup/emergency situations.
DD could end up being nothing, or he could end up being Tony Romo. Another low-profile non drafted player who got a chance and proved he belonged |
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Donnie Hockey
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USA
1514 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2010 : 09:24:14 AM
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Tom Brady was expected to be a starting quarterback in the NFL? Because he was so good in college only starting 1 year and was picked in the 6th round.
Yes, the New England Patriots expected Tom Brady to be their starting quarterback at some point. While he only started one year, NFL teams saw him practice and at the NFL combine.
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Originally posted by dtwells
Nobody was expecting Brady to be a starter, 6th rounders are drafted simply for backup/emergency situations.
Good to see your knowledge of football rivals your knowledge of hockey. Once you get past the second round in football, there's not much separating a third round pick from a sixth round pick in the NFL.
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Originally posted by dtwells
DD could end up being nothing, or he could end up being Tony Romo. Another low-profile non drafted player who got a chance and proved he belonged
DD will end up being what he is today, a minor leaguer. |
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dtwells
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 02/19/2010 : 11:57:05 AM
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Good to see your knowledge of football rivals your knowledge of hockey. Once you get past the second round in football, there's not much separating a third round pick from a sixth round pick in the NFL.
Teams who expect quarterbacks to be starters are drafted in the first or the top few picks of the 2nd round.
Peyton Manning 1st
Phil Rivers 1st
Aaron Rodgers 1st
Roethelisburger 1st
Donovan McNabb 1st
Eli Manning 1st
Matt Ryan 1st
Jason Campbell 1st
Jay Cutler 1st
Joe Flacco 1st
Chad Pennignton 1st
Matt Stafford 1st
Alex Smith 1st
Vince Young 1st
Josh Freeman 1st
Carson Palmer 1st
Kyle Boller 1st
Jamarcus Russell1st
Mark Sanchize 1st
Brady Quinn 1st
Drew Brees 2nd (1st pick of 2nd round)
Brett Favre 2nd (top of round 2)
Matt Schaub 3rd
Trent Edwards 3rd
Kyle Orton 4th
David Garrard 4th
Tom Brady 6th
Matt Hasselbeck 6th
Matt Cassel 7th
Jake Delhomme Undrafted
Kurt Warner Undrafted
Tony Romo Undrafted
Numbers speak for themselves. |
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BP2011
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
531 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2010 : 2:09:25 PM
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| As much as you think Donnie your the Montreal GM your not, the current Montreal GM was behind the signing of Desharnais so Donnie unless you are the Montreal GM and make the phone calls to Hamilton all your posts are based on your opinion which I know is a really good opinion but your not the GM of the Montreal Canadiens, as you say Desharnais is only called up if injuries occur whats to say one of the Kostitsyn brothers, or Gomez come down with season ending injuries, looks like Desharnais could find his way back to Montreal, you just cant say he wont be back or he will be back until the season is over, and if hes not back I hope he wins the Calder Cup with Hamilton. Desharnais is an amazing hockey player, and he has proven that in the QMJHL, ECHL, and AHL, if Montreal doesnt give him a long look, then I will GUARENTEE he will sign elsewhere who will give him that look because his stats speak "Give HIM A SHOT". Your a great Hockey guy Donnie, your just not the one calling the shots in Montreal |
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 02/19/2010 : 10:45:08 PM
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"David Desharnais notched a hat trick to help Hamilton to a 4-3 road win over Grand Rapids on Friday at Van Andel Arena. Desharnais now shows a point in 13 of his last 14 AHL games (5-16-21) for the Bulldogs, who snapped a three-game winless skid (0-2-0-1).
Desharnais began his onslaught just 30 seconds into the contest and made it a 2-0 Hamilton lead at the 9:49 mark. After Jan Mursak put the Griffins on the board late in the first period, Desharnais completed his hat trick 46 seconds into the second frame"
Using Donnie's approach--this works out to 105 points for the year. |
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